5 NYP Officers accused of Sodomy in Train station (New York, Union: salaries, law)

[SobroGuy]

Yes and some interesting facts that have been left out: The Victim was kicked in the head AND stomach. Wow....even besides the alleged anal rape...why exactly is the NYPD training their officers to kick people in the head and stomach? If this does not sound like a gang attack..I dunno what is.

[Indi9]

No matter what SuperMario did (or the young man described in the original post) the police officers in question were out of line. They went too far. Blaming the victim never solves or gets to the real root of the problem, imo. I have been followed by the police and stared down by the police, here in NYC and in places like Baton Rouge, Louisiana and the University of Illinois--when I was, respectively, a grad student and a visiting professor. I did nothing to warrant this harassment. I broke no laws. Except maybe being Black, wearing an afro, and appearing to be a little too sure of myself. My students and colleagues tell me that I come across as a "radical" and give too much eye contact. Please. I think the police profile certain types of people and that we are all potentially or literally victimized by this, esp. since their list of the "usual suspects" grows larger every day. On the positive side, I have been helped by NYC police officers, e.g. giving me directions, letting my girlfriends and I go through the roped-off Times Square barricades one New Year's Eve. That situation was a little frightening. The young officer was jumpy and defensive at first. He automatically reached to his side for his gun. But I threw my hands up in the air, smiled and flirted with him shamelessly, and told him that we were just trying to go through so that we could go uptown to go salsa dancing at a museum (a First Night event). What if he had decided that we were criminals and pulled his gun on us? Now don't get me wrong. He would have been perfectly within his rights not to let me and my girlfriends through the barricade. But to pull a gun on us???? Crazy...

[SobroGuy]

I agree..and I have really only positive experiences with the NYPD..and I live in Mott Haven no less. Nevertheless, what is occuring in the dept has been ongoing for decades..we are talking about the same stuff that the NYPD was going to "correct" 40 years ago! The lack of leadership is profound..and unfortunately, because of the bad apples, how can we trust the NYPD to do the right thing, be honest, be credible witnesses? And therein lies the problem..they can no longer be trusted..and that is a HUGE problem for the NYPD. Get rid of the Police Brass and get some real leadership in there...and only then will we see real change. Until then..it is just the usual suspects, wielding lots of power and corruption for their own benefit.

[bx718]

Originally Posted by sandinmyshoes

Irony,...95% of citizens are good.5% are not.telling the truth is considered "snitching" on that 5%.same deal with nypd.IRONY.

Please, snitching is when a criminal accomplice doesn't keep his/her mouth shut when caught by cops. When a "regular", law abiding citizen, sees something bad happening and calls the cops, that's a citizen performing their civic duty.

[sandinmyshoes]

thats why i put it in parenthisis.i agree with you bx.areas of crime won't cooperate.neither will the good cops.remember serpico?peace

[laysayfair]

Originally Posted by SuperMario

Nah, me and my friend were going to cop a bottle. We're both under 21, (close enough he's 20, im 19) so we have to ask someone over 21 to buy us liquor. So we went to Dyckman in Inwood, which is one of the heaviest drug spots in all of Uptown and stood on the block for at least 30 min waiting for someone to pass by so we could ask. Well we find somebody and he buys us it and we immediately take a taxi, as not to be seen walking around with a liquor bottle. Everything is all fine, until we cross the University Heights bridge onto Fordham rd and the car behind us turns on the sirens. They were undercover cops. They questioned where we were, and I just said Manhattan. But finally I told them we were on Dyckman, and they wanted to know Dyckman and what? But I couldn't tell them, I didn't know. They took the bottle but once they checked us and found NOTHING (), told us that they dont give a damn about the liquor, there are more important things to worry about. So at least we had our liquor.

They were probably watching us on the low, and since Inwood right over the bridge, and especially Dyckman, are HEAVY drug spots, they assumed we were dealing because we were just standing there doing nothing.

SuperMario, as the mom of a 19 year old son, would you please stay away from heavy drug spots in an attempt to get liquor. Much worse could have happened to you. In your mothers name, please don't do these kinds of things. Please.

[SobroGuy]

And it keeps getting better! The daily news is reporting that one of the cops accused in the sodomy was sued for excessive force in the beating cases of two other victims. The NYPD/City coughed up $50,000 in the settlement....why am I not surprised? The NYPD keeps these KNOWN liabilities/violent cops on the payroll....so now we have cops that are beating civilians, allowed to stay on the force. Yay! City paid $50G to settle excessive-force suits against same officer in subway sodomy case

[SobroGuy]

According to the NY daily news today, the Transit Cop that witnessed the sodomy testified and corroborated the Victim's story....this is very sad indeed for the NYPD. Transit cop testimony backs Michael Mineo's claim he was assaulted in buttocks

[moocat]

Originally Posted by Indi9

The young officer was jumpy and defensive at first. He automatically reached to his side for his gun. But I threw my hands up in the air, smiled and flirted with him shamelessly, and told him that we were just trying to go through so that we could go uptown to go salsa dancing at a museum (a First Night event). What if he had decided that we were criminals and pulled his gun on us? Now don't get me wrong. He would have been perfectly within his rights not to let me and my girlfriends through the barricade. But to pull a gun on us???? Crazy...

What he did is pretty much we are taught to do tactically, especially if we are surprised. Don't take it personal.

[LiveChick]

Originally Posted by SobroGuy

According to the NY daily news today, the Transit Cop that witnessed the sodomy testified and corroborated the Victim's story....this is very sad indeed for the NYPD. Transit cop testimony backs Michael Mineo's claim he was assaulted in buttocks

Well, he's defintley done. Once another cop testifies I think its over.
I didn't quite believe the story, but wow. I guess it sounded too disgusting to be true.
There should be no blue wall of silence in cases of true events.