5 NYP Officers accused of Sodomy in Train station (Newark, Crown Heights: to buy, taxi driver)

[SeventhFloor]

unfortunately, the cops have to act like this...especially the DTs...think of the greaseball criminals that they have to deal with on a daily basis, who are much more violent. i really don't like the cops like that either, but i kinda understand why they act like that. i just wouldnt prefer it to be me.

[Gardier]

Look, four years ago I was on Livonia ave one night when my cousin saw me walking toward Junius st. station, he gave me a ride. Of course he had made a couple of detours. One detour was going to go pick up a friend of his from Van Dyke houses. I decided to get into the junky back seat when his friend joined. I noticed the police following us on Dumont ave. My cousin turned onto Rockaway ave. and pulled along the side of Brownsville houses. Come to find out my cousin had a burned out "third" brake light. I suddenly saw lights flashing and heard the sirens constantly coming on and off. They shined the light in everyones face. Then asked who we all were, of course we told them. The police then approached the passenger and asked him to step out. He ran. I heard a shot go off. I also watched the passenger wrestle with the police. The police then made me put my hands up in the back seat. NYPD then pulled me out of the police car, slammed me on the ground and threatend to kill me over and over again. They arrested the passenger on an attempted murder on police charge because he had a gun in his sweats that fell to the ground and discharged. The police later found another gun in my cousins car. However, I was pulled out of the car, beat, and had guns to my head while the cops threatened to kill me. They even charged me with having a gun which was later dismissed in court due to insufficient evidence. I thought I was going to die that night. I was only 18 years old when that happened.

[moocat]

Originally Posted by Gardier

Look, four years ago I was on Livonia ave one night when my cousin saw me walking toward Junius st. station, he gave me a ride. Of course he had made a couple of detours. One detour was going to go pick up a friend of his from Van Dyke houses. I decided to get into the junky back seat when his friend joined. I noticed the police following us on Dumont ave. My cousin turned onto Rockaway ave. and pulled along the side of Brownsville houses. Come to find out my cousin had a burned out "third" brake light. I suddenly saw lights flashing and heard the sirens constantly coming on and off. They shined the light in everyones face. Then asked who we all were, of course we told them. The police then approached the passenger and asked him to step out. He ran. I heard a shot go off. I also watched the passenger wrestle with the police. The police then made me put my hands up in the back seat. NYPD then pulled me out of the police car, slammed me on the ground and threatend to kill me over and over again. They arrested the passenger on an attempted murder on police charge because he had a gun in his sweats that fell to the ground and discharged. The police later found another gun in my cousins car. However, I was pulled out of the car, beat, and had guns to my head while the cops threatened to kill me. They even charged me with having a gun which was later dismissed in court due to insufficient evidence. I thought I was going to die that night. I was only 18 years old when that happened.

So you were riding around the hood in a car with two loaded guns and it was the cops who were wrong.

Sorry the police weren't so nice to you. Getting shot at tends to annoy us a little bit.

[moocat]

Originally Posted by SuperMario

The NYPD abuses power, there's no doubt about that. I believe they are given to much power. One tactic they like using, and I've seen it done, is putting their finger to your face, as if daring the person to hit them. They shove their finger on your cheek, yell at you (spitting while in the process), call you derogatory names, just to get you to hit them. Once you touch an officer, you are done. The cops can proceed to beat you to a pulp, and nothing is done. Even if the cops hit you first, is their word against yours. The NYPD is the strongest "gang" in NYC.

This explains the attitude towards cops in the hood. The "no snitching" attitude. Many of you who live in well-off areas may not believe this, but this all is very real in the hood.

We don't care if you snitch, because the ones who are going to be robbing your grandma at gunpoint aren't the cops, it's the ****heads who you don't want to tell us about. Fine with me.

[Gardier]

Originally Posted by moocat

So you were riding around the hood in a car with two loaded guns and it was the cops who were wrong.

Sorry the police weren't so nice to you. Getting shot at tends to annoy us a little bit.

No one shot at anyone. I was almost killed by the cops in my own neighborhood. I was totally oblivious to any shady activity. My life was flashing before my eyes while the cops were about to kill me for something I had no knowledge of.

[Gardier]

The funny thing was that my cousin got off for the gun that was in the back seat with me because they never wrote a ticket for the damaged tail light for which we were stopped. Without that, the cops had no reason to pull us over. NYPD only dished out felony charges instead of the charge we were initially pulled for.

[moocat]

Originally Posted by Gardier

No one shot at anyone. I was almost killed by the cops in my own neighborhood. I was totally oblivious to any shady activity. My life was flashing before my eyes while the cops were about to kill me for something I had no knowledge of.

From the cops' eyes, you got three guys riding around in a car with two guns. We don't know that you are a good Christian gentleman who takes care of his sick grandma in his free time who had no knowledge of what was going on. The honest truth - we are going to make it home alive even if it means offending you.

By the way, guns aren't supposed to go off when they are dropped to the ground.

Originally Posted by Gardier

The funny thing was that my cousin got off for the gun that was in the back seat with me because they never wrote a ticket for the damaged tail light for which we were stopped. Without that, the cops had no reason to pull us over. NYPD only dished out felony charges instead of the charge we were initially pulled for.

Another street lawyer. Maybe you should know that the policy of the Brooklyn District Attorney's office is to add traffic charges onto the court complaint, they specifically do NOT want cops writing summonses from stops that result in arrests.

[Gardier]

The cops forgot to mention why we were even pulled over for in their "court complaint." The court, therefore, assumed that we were pulled over for no probable cause. Believe me I'm no street lawyer. I'm just someone who was caught with some dummies. However, I really did nothing. I can't help that I live in the "hood."

[moocat]

Originally Posted by Gardier

The cops forgot to mention why we were even pulled over for in their "court complaint." The court, therefore, assumed that we were pulled over for no probable cause. Believe me I'm no street lawyer. I'm just someone who was caught with some dummies. However, I really did nothing. I can't help that I live in the "hood."

The complaint is written by an Assistant District Attorney whose initial question when evidence is recovered from a traffic stop is ALWAYS "why did you pull the car over?".

If the judge found a mistake, 99% of the time the cop would be called down to fix it instead of just tossing it. If the case was dismissed it was for some other reason.

Kind of ironic that you felt more threatened by the police than by a guy carrying an illegal gun in his sweatpants.

[Gardier]

I wasn't hanging with drug dealers. I was just caught in the car with a legitimate family member. It happens. I had guns pressed against my scalp, at the time I did not know why.