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I wonder how difficult it'd be to create a roomba traincar on some of the utility cars the MTA trains. It would ideally be a system that sucks and/or sweeps the tracks and areas near it as it passes through. It seems like it shouldn't be too much of a feat to create and would run during late nights and a few of these would alternate among different tracks. It might do double duty in not only cleaning the tracks but also setting a precedent of clean tracks making it a psychological barrier of sorts to dirtying the tracks in the first place. The big issue might be the displacing of fluid on the tracks and possibly washing it against the third rail, but the extent to which that'd be an issue would probably come out during testig and dealt with according.
Another factor that can probably make things a bit better is opening and maintaining more of the existent restrooms where at the very least you can localize the worst of the human mess in certain areas.
Another might be to heavily publicize punitive measurements for littering and such and enforcing it more.
Last edited by OyCrumbler; 10-28-2013 at 08:26 PM..
I wonder how difficult it'd be to create a roomba traincar on some of the utility cars the MTA trains. It would ideally be a system that sucks and/or sweeps the tracks and areas near it as it passes through.
They exist already. You can't tell from looking at the tracks. Maybe there's only one and it hits each section of track once every 6 months or something.
They exist already. You can't tell from looking at the tracks. Maybe there's only one and it hits each section of track once every 6 months or something.
Do you think they need to be rejiggered to improve on what they do or do you think it's more a matter of having them run more often/having more of them?
Alas, the "roombas" have no way of knowing that the subway system has CEILINGS. This lack of knowledge the machines share with Joseph Lhota who still thinks a SUBWAY is just a sandwich.
I have been to many cities in the world and I can safely say the NYC subway system is by far the dirtiest and smelliest system. And the sad fact is I've already gotten used to it since I have to ride it everyday. But that still doesn't mean it is the worst system in the world. As people may have noted, few systems rival the NYC subway for reach and 24 hour service. And those that do like the Tokyo subway system ends up being more expensive since you have to pay by distance traveled. In the entire time I've ridden the subway, I have never littered. I am sure there are many like me. However, there are many people who do litter and I cannot begin to guess if they have anything in common. However, I do have an idea for a social experiment. First, renovate one station and make it pristine in terms of cleanliness. Use draconian enforcement tactics to make sure it stays pristine which includes heavy fines or even arrests for people who litter. See if the fact the station is clean will discourage littering. See which enforcement tactics work best. Use the experience from this one station to enact policies that may work to keep the entire system clean.
Blaming patron cleanliness is wrongheaded when the most disgusting experience of the ceilings are the most nauseatingly blackened, paint and plaster peeling, miasma for mold and slime growth. Has nobody who has ever RUN the subway system ever bothered to look UP? Does Lhota have a debilitating and progressive spine degeneration?
I have been to many cities in the world and I can safely say the NYC subway system is by far the dirtiest and smelliest system. And the sad fact is I've already gotten used to it since I have to ride it everyday. But that still doesn't mean it is the worst system in the world. As people may have noted, few systems rival the NYC subway for reach and 24 hour service. And those that do like the Tokyo subway system ends up being more expensive since you have to pay by distance traveled. In the entire time I've ridden the subway, I have never littered. I am sure there are many like me. However, there are many people who do litter and I cannot begin to guess if they have anything in common. However, I do have an idea for a social experiment. First, renovate one station and make it pristine in terms of cleanliness. Use draconian enforcement tactics to make sure it stays pristine which includes heavy fines or even arrests for people who litter. See if the fact the station is clean will discourage littering. See which enforcement tactics work best. Use the experience from this one station to enact policies that may work to keep the entire system clean.
Good comments and suggestions. Forward them to the MTA chief office.
The subway stations and trains in Rome are much worse than in NYC.Dirtier,smellier,dimly lit and older equipment. Actually,the subways in Rome are a lot like the subways used to be in NYC back in the 70's and 80's.They might be using our old trains.
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