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Old 03-06-2007, 11:15 AM
 
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Hello,

My wife and I are thinking of moving to the Upper East Side and we are trying to find out about the public schools at the elementary and middle school levels. Our housing would be on Park Ave in District 2, and PS 198 is the school our son would be attending.
We had never been to New York before, but we just got back from spending 5-days in Manhattan and we think it would be a great experience for us.

Any information is greatly appreciated!
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Old 03-06-2007, 06:35 PM
 
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Around what street is that? 96th? And you'll be in Mt. Sinai housing?

Try this: http://www.emsc.nysed.gov/repcrd2005...00011573.shtml

and this: http://www.edpriorities.org/Info/info_BestSch.html

and this: http://www.insideschools.org/index.php
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Old 03-07-2007, 05:01 AM
 
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look at www.insideschools.org
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Old 03-07-2007, 09:33 AM
 
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Thanks for the links. It is on 96th, and, yes, it is Sinai housing. Is this a bad neighborhood for a family? My wife and I were there last week and it looked nice.
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Old 03-07-2007, 06:49 PM
 
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here's another good link. the ones above are good as well--

http://www.greatschools.net/modperl/...school/ny/2621

I student teach in Manhattan (elementary), and plan on teaching there next year. Teacher quality in the schools is as good as anywhere else, but the main problem in NYC public schools are the fighting among the kids. There can be quite a bit of violence in the public schools. City public schools usually always have kids from the projects or homeless shelters, no matter the area. Some of the kids tend to be emotionally or mentally unstable, largely due to the fact that their parents aren't involved with them very much at all. It tends to affect other students if they're so disruptive or commenting on other kids and starting fights with them. If your child is quiet and stays away from those kind of kids and doesn't feel pressured to be accepted, then I think you will be fine. There are many kids in city schools who do perfectly fine.

Although, I would stay away from the middle schools. There's a saying among teachers: the best middle school is still worse than the worst high school. There's middle school kids in this school, and they're very difficult from what I hear. When your child is surrounded by such disruptive kids, it takes away from the learning in the classroom, since the teacher has to focus so much on discipline.

That's just my advice. I hope it helps.
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Old 03-08-2007, 11:40 AM
 
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Wow... A lot of violence! It sounds like putting a child into the public school system is not a smart move from a parental perspective. What are the private schools like? Are they incredibly expensive? Is it even possible to get into them without connections or money?
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Old 03-08-2007, 12:13 PM
 
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I left NY 10 yrs ago but used to work at Sinai and lived in New Rochelle at the time.
MOST, I'd even venture to say ALL, the physicians had their kids in private schools. Horace Mann is one of the ones that I remember. I don't know how far in advance you would have to reserve a spot.

I would speak with the other physicians who have children and ask where and why their kids go to those schools and then contact the schools for specific programs such as - magnet schools, math and science, arts and music, whatever you think would be best suited for your children.

Are you going in as a resident, fellow, or faculty?

Have fun.
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Old 03-08-2007, 04:25 PM
 
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It really all depends on the area of the city you go to, like I said. In general, the public schools can be violent. I'm with 4th grade now, which is when kids tend to view other kids by what they wear and really judging them by just looking at them. And I'd say about half the kids in each grade were probably left back, so the kids tend to be older than the typical age for a grade.

The way I described 4th graders acting happens in all schools, but I think in the city the kids can be a bit more harsh. I notice the girls are hardly involved in any of this. Most of the girls tend to get along and not pick on one another as much. The boys are a lot worse.

I'm not sure about private schools or catholic schools. I don't know much about them at all. I would say it might be okay if your child goes to public school for elementary, but I don't recommend it for middle school. The middle schoolers are very, very rowdy, and I would say a good amount of them get involved in drugs. Many fights go on too. I see it at this school. I wouldn't ever want to teach middle school...lol
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Old 03-09-2007, 01:11 AM
 
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They don't call them PS Sh*t for nothing....
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Old 03-09-2007, 03:51 AM
 
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Private schools in NYC are a world unto themselves. I know, because I went to one and have a niece and nephew in private schools. They require testing. The ERBs, which are done for the year. And interviews. Also done for next year. And, of course, money. LOTS of money. Just about as much as college (no, we're not talking Princeton/Yale but more in the range of $20.000/year - and that's just tuition). And then there are uniforms, books, etc. In the decent neighborhoods in the lower grades things aren't necessarily as bad as they've been painted. The key is to vet your neighborhoods for the schools.
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