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Old 02-12-2009, 03:42 PM
 
Location: Staten Island, NY
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I hope the offending officer isn't white. The "rev" will be all over it.
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Old 02-12-2009, 05:48 PM
 
Location: Back in the gym...Yo Adrian!
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How many incidents like this happen in a given year? Seeing how we have about 40K cops on the street I would say it's not fair to judge them all by the actions of a few. I've been robbed several times on the streets and subway by blacks and Puerto Ricans, should I say they are all bad? Everyone carry a video camera because you never know when a black man may commit a crime! While I don't condone the action of the few bad cops, I also don't think there is cause to be paranoid.
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Old 02-12-2009, 06:10 PM
 
Location: Beautiful Pelham Parkway,The Bronx
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You have a point Coolhand. I Never really thought about it but NYC probably has as many cops as 10 or 15 other major cities combined , so in a way it's almost surprising it doesn't happen more often.
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Old 02-12-2009, 08:03 PM
 
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The problem that distinguishes the small percentage of bad guy cops from say, the comparably small percentage of crooked teachers or CEO's, is that here we're dealing with hoodlums whom we've given a uniform, a badge, and a gun.

A regular criminal with a gun can wreak havoc. The ones who have legal authority to carry that gun and the badge while wearing a legally authorized uniform are capable of unleashing severerly deadly hurt to the community they are entrusted to help. Yes, they are a minority, but boy, what a deadly minority they can be.
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Old 02-12-2009, 08:51 PM
 
Location: Medina (Brooklyn), NY
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How many incidents like this happen in a given year? Seeing how we have about 40K cops on the street I would say it's not fair to judge them all by the actions of a few. I've been robbed several times on the streets and subway by blacks and Puerto Ricans, should I say they are all bad? Everyone carry a video camera because you never know when a black man may commit a crime! While I don't condone the action of the few bad cops, I also don't think there is cause to be paranoid.
TOO MANY. You just don't hear about all of them.

I don't have any statistics or anything (because it's no way you can prove this) but from MY knowledge it's MY opinion that 55-60% of them are like this.
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Old 02-13-2009, 07:06 AM
 
Location: Back in the gym...Yo Adrian!
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TOO MANY. You just don't hear about all of them.

I don't have any statistics or anything (because it's no way you can prove this) but from MY knowledge it's MY opinion that 55-60% of them are like this.
I agree that even one is too many, and I have been on the receiving end of what could be seen as police brutality, however, I still don't feel as though we need to be fearful that every time a cop pulls us over they're going to use gestapo tactics. By your count, you feel as though over 20K cops are dirty and abusive. I'm sorry, but if that were true we'd see a LOT more cases of brutality reported in the media. The newspapers on are not on the side of the cops, they sell more papers when they can stir up some tension, especially if race is a factor.

You can bet Sharpton will be out in full force with his bullhorn if there is an angle he can play against the police, but even that race-baitor will be smart enough to look into the victims background before he starts another rally for the cameras. After all, the good Reverend is a business man and won't rally his troops for just anyone. There has to be a prosperous return on his shakedowns.
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Old 02-13-2009, 07:39 AM
 
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I agree that even one is too many, and I have been on the receiving end of what could be seen as police brutality, however, I still don't feel as though we need to be fearful that every time a cop pulls us over they're going to use gestapo tactics. By your count, you feel as though over 20K cops are dirty and abusive. I'm sorry, but if that were true we'd see a LOT more cases of brutality reported in the media. The newspapers on are not on the side of the cops, they sell more papers when they can stir up some tension, especially if race is a factor.

You can bet Sharpton will be out in full force with his bullhorn if there is an angle he can play against the police, but even that race-baitor will be smart enough to look into the victims background before he starts another rally for the cameras. After all, the good Reverend is a business man and won't rally his troops for just anyone. There has to be a prosperous return on his shakedowns.

Yes. We have to always be vigilant against police brutality and misconduct but we must also recognize that the rogue cops are only a minority. Let's ensure they never become a majority and let's try to keep at bay the race baiters and other charlatans who would exploit personal horror stories for their own agendas.
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Old 02-13-2009, 11:44 AM
 
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Ah yes Mod cut: language-the police, until you need them then it's call and tell them someone's being shot so they'll show up faster to tell those kids to be quiet.

They are necessary. Period. I personally like the idea that in the back of my mind I have to think "is today going to be the day??" Keeps me out of trouble.

And let's stop with the race thing. If you're an officer working a high crime area and people who are purple are the people who live there and commit the crimes you're going to be wary of purple people. You're going to stop purple people. These cops don't have crystal balls. If you look the part and sound the part don't be suprised when you're stopped. It's just common sense. If you look like a criminal and hang out with criminal you are going to be treated as a criminal, not a victim.

That being said cops who abuse power should be sent to the tombs. period.

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Old 02-13-2009, 01:21 PM
 
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I agree that even one is too many, and I have been on the receiving end of what could be seen as police brutality, however, I still don't feel as though we need to be fearful that every time a cop pulls us over they're going to use gestapo tactics. By your count, you feel as though over 20K cops are dirty and abusive. I'm sorry, but if that were true we'd see a LOT more cases of brutality reported in the media. The newspapers on are not on the side of the cops, they sell more papers when they can stir up some tension, especially if race is a factor.

You can bet Sharpton will be out in full force with his bullhorn if there is an angle he can play against the police, but even that race-baitor will be smart enough to look into the victims background before he starts another rally for the cameras. After all, the good Reverend is a business man and won't rally his troops for just anyone. There has to be a prosperous return on his shakedowns.
Cool,

Don't let your dislike of Sharpton (by the way there's a guy named Baron who's even worse) get in the way of seeing the many brutal cops for what they are.

They are criminals in uniform. And being paid by our tax dollars.
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Old 02-13-2009, 01:33 PM
 
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Cool,

Don't let your dislike of Sharpton (by the way there's a guy named Baron who's even worse) get in the way of seeing the many brutal cops for what they are.

They are criminals in uniform. And being paid by our tax dollars.
lamont, I understand cool's caution that we don't prejudge all cops, but I've got to tell you, I've personally witnessed sufficient instances of arrogance, antagonism, disrespect, heavy-handedness by some cops against civilians that my antenna is always up hoping for the best.

It is indeed a sad commentary that we as taxpayers paying the salaries of those we entrust to protect us against the bad guys, must also fear the hooligans wearing uniforms.
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