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Old 02-18-2009, 06:58 PM
 
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The pros: There is always something to do 24/7

Cons: Too much rent for too little space and the fact that sometimes you want a little bit of quiet time. Other than that There is so much to do in the city from Batter Park to Inwood.
That NYC 24/7 is a little too 'played out'. Besides drinking in a bar, what else is there to do in Mannhattan at 3am? Can you go an see a Broadway play at that hour? What about the ballet? How about a musuem or art gallery? Sure you can get something to eat, but what quality of food are you going to get at that hour? And what % of adults, who are in their 40's or older, are running around at 3 or 4 or 5am on any kind of regular basis?

In Pittsburgh (Pa. state law), the bars close at 2am. If I ever felt like drinking later than that, I'd simply go to an 'after hours club' and drink til dawn. And no I'm not trying to compare Pittsburgh with Mannhattan or NYC, I know there's no comparision.

I'm just trying to prove the point that life exist after midnight in just about every major city one way or another. And it's basically revolves around the same two things, drinking and grabbing something to eat afterwards.

I've always found that the most active people, who love to be constantly on-the-go, are the ones who usually hit the sack at a decent hour anyway. Most people who have a day off, and where at the bars the night before to the wee hours of the morning, tend to sleep their day off away. Or atleast ain't very active on that day off.
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Old 02-19-2009, 06:27 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia,New Jersey, NYC!
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That NYC 24/7 is a little too 'played out'. Besides drinking in a bar, what else is there to do in Mannhattan at 3am? Can you go an see a Broadway play at that hour? What about the ballet? How about a musuem or art gallery? Sure you can get something to eat, but what quality of food are you going to get at that hour? And what % of adults, who are in their 40's or older, are running around at 3 or 4 or 5am on any kind of regular basis?

In Pittsburgh (Pa. state law), the bars close at 2am. If I ever felt like drinking later than that, I'd simply go to an 'after hours club' and drink til dawn. And no I'm not trying to compare Pittsburgh with Mannhattan or NYC, I know there's no comparision.

I'm just trying to prove the point that life exist after midnight in just about every major city one way or another. And it's basically revolves around the same two things, drinking and grabbing something to eat afterwards.

I've always found that the most active people, who love to be constantly on-the-go, are the ones who usually hit the sack at a decent hour anyway. Most people who have a day off, and where at the bars the night before to the wee hours of the morning, tend to sleep their day off away. Or atleast ain't very active on that day off.
i'm too old to hang around a bar after 2 myself. hell, i can barely make it past midnite these days

but there's still a 24 hour energy/vibe in manhattan that most cities don't have. ok, so a bar may close at 3 am on a Tuesday on W.4th St, and the area "relatively" empty. but in an hour, you'll probably see the DSNY trucks rolling around. not to mention the staples: cabs all over the place, a million 24 hr bodegas still open, argentinian tourists with backpacks strolling around, and there are always people hanging around washington square park ( not all are homeless, but don't ask me what their story is) and don't forget the "after hours" clubs still going as well. so its like when one group of people call it a night, another call it a morning. theres a constant flux. its the volume of people. not everyone has the same schedule and the city caters to that.

sure, many cities are similar but in a much smaller scale. so it can afford to shut down at a certain hour.

if there's $$ to be made at 4 am on a Tues, something will be open.

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Old 02-19-2009, 01:13 PM
 
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i'm too old to hang around a bar after 2 myself. hell, i can barely make it past midnite these days

but there's still a 24 hour energy/vibe in manhattan that most cities don't have. ok, so a bar may close at 3 am on a Tuesday on W.4th St, and the area "relatively" empty. but in an hour, you'll probably see the DSNY trucks rolling around. not to mention the staples: cabs all over the place, a million 24 hr bodegas still open, argentinian tourists with backpacks strolling around, and there are always people hanging around washington square park ( not all are homeless, but don't ask me what their story is) and don't forget the "after hours" clubs still going as well. so its like when one group of people call it a night, another call it a morning. theres a constant flux. its the volume of people. not everyone has the same schedule and the city caters to that.

sure, many cities are similar but in a much smaller scale. so it can afford to shut down at a certain hour.

if there's $$ to be made at 4 am on a Tues, something will be open.
Did you list watching a "garbage truck" as an activity to do in Mannhattan at 3am? lol lol And the people you're talking about "hanging around Washington Park", how many of 'those' people will be "hanging around" during the cold winter nights?

I don't expect to be able to go to a musuem or the ballet at 3am. I'm just trying to point out, that the 24/7 NYC thing, really just revolves around getting drunk and grabbing a 'hero' at a bodegas afterwards. The same thing can be done in any major city (just on a much smaller scale), albiet the "bodegas" would probably be a 24hr Diner elsewhere or some local treasure, like 'Gino's' in South Philly, or 'Primanti Brother's' or the O' in Pittsburgh, etc.

Cities like LA, Las Vegas, Miami Beach, New Orleans, and Chicago, can hold their own in the late night party scene. NYC party scene is no doubt great, just saying, others know how to party too.

Drunkiness followed by comfort foods, is BASICALLY what 24/7 means.
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Old 02-19-2009, 02:07 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia,New Jersey, NYC!
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Did you list watching a "garbage truck" as an activity to do in Mannhattan at 3am? lol lol And the people you're talking about "hanging around Washington Park", how many of 'those' people will be "hanging around" during the cold winter nights?

I don't expect to be able to go to a musuem or the ballet at 3am. I'm just trying to point out, that the 24/7 NYC thing, really just revolves around getting drunk and grabbing a 'hero' at a bodegas afterwards. The same thing can be done in any major city (just on a much smaller scale), albiet the "bodegas" would probably be a 24hr Diner elsewhere or some local treasure, like 'Gino's' in South Philly, or 'Primanti Brother's' or the O' in Pittsburgh, etc.

Cities like LA, Las Vegas, Miami Beach, New Orleans, and Chicago, can hold their own in the late night party scene. NYC party scene is no doubt great, just saying, others know how to party too.

Drunkiness followed by comfort foods, is BASICALLY what 24/7 means.
i hear ya. you got a point
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Old 02-19-2009, 02:24 PM
 
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I'm not into drunkenness or comfort foods, so I guess that is someone else's specialty.

However, the fact that the subway is open 24/7 makes a huge difference in terms of going out. Does Boston still have it's subway system closing at 12:30pm? I remember that that puts a big damper in even going over to someone's place for dinner if you want to stay and chat. Does Pittsburgh even have a subway?

So even if you don't want to get drunk at 3am, the nature of the city as a 24/7 does and can make a difference to people whose lives revolve around more than getting drunk.
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Old 02-19-2009, 02:46 PM
 
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I'm not into drunkenness or comfort foods, so I guess that is someone else's specialty.

However, the fact that the subway is open 24/7 makes a huge difference in terms of going out. Does Boston still have it's subway system closing at 12:30pm? I remember that that puts a big damper in even going over to someone's place for dinner if you want to stay and chat. Does Pittsburgh even have a subway?

So even if you don't want to get drunk at 3am, the nature of the city as a 24/7 does and can make a difference to people whose lives revolve around more than getting drunk.

I know that is not too hard to get around Chicago at 3am (yes their subway runs 24/7 unlong with buses, plenty of taxi's also). Miami Beach, another easy 'taxi grabbing' spot. Vegas? Come on, again taxi central (especially along the strip).

What time do you eat "dinner"? Plus, owning a car in Boston would be more of a norm than compared to NYC. You act like nobody drives in NYC. I know bar hopping with a car in Mannhattan is outta the question, but the outer boroughs? Plenty of people drive their cars when going out for the night there.

Pittsburgh does have a subway/trolley system. It really only covers the downtown and South Hill's city nabes though. Philly is VERY convient in terms of public transit.

A "subway" is definitely a nice and safe way to travel. But don't forget, people can live within walking distances to the "nightlife" in those other cities I listed. When I lived in Pittsburgh, I could walk to all kinds of bars, and to the 'after hr's clubs' if need be.

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Old 02-19-2009, 02:55 PM
 
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Well there is nothing worse than being in a subway car with a homeless guy who has fallen asleep on the bench and pissed all over the floor.
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Old 02-19-2009, 04:04 PM
 
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It's funny a pittsburgh guy highjacked my thread! LOL

I was just asking about pros and cons for those of us who live in NYC...
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Old 02-19-2009, 04:06 PM
 
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It's funny a pittsburgh guy highjacked my thread! LOL

I was just asking about pros and cons for those of us who live in NYC...
You actually asked about MANHATTAN...not NYC.
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Old 02-19-2009, 04:28 PM
 
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It's funny a pittsburgh guy highjacked my thread! LOL

I was just asking about pros and cons for those of us who live in NYC...
Highjack? I tried helping you at. You obviously like Mannhattan or you wouldn't be moving back. The other people posted comments like the only "con" was the cost. Which is such a broad stroke to list as a "con" to begin with. Cause the "cost" affects every aspect of life there. You're on your own for now on though, I won't interfer with anymore of your post. I was one of the only people who actaually understood what you were trying to say by the way.........
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