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Old 07-09-2008, 03:09 PM
 
Location: Bronx, NY
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Are you serious? You're basically suggesting Harlem just magically got safer over night and became desirable place to live? NO. I think people who were sick of lower Manhattan being expensive built new apartment buildings there and opened stores which brought a new influx of people which made the real estate in the area worth more which made it wealthier and wealthier generally = safer. Also there is no way to help the 30% of people in the bronx living in poverty, it's a never ending cycle and they will never get out of poverty so the only solution is to get rid of a lot of the projects and start appealing to people with more money and it won't solve the poor people's problems but it will make the bronx a safer and more desirable place to live.
A lot of different factors caused Harlem to improve. Crime had been going down since the tail-end of the Dinkins admin. Also the end of the crack epidemic. To put it solely on gentrification is making a poorly informed assumption. A lot of Harlem has barely started getting gentrified. Most of it isn't gentrified yet its nowhere near as unsafe as it was in the 70's and 80's.
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Old 07-09-2008, 04:56 PM
 
Location: Mott Haven
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Yes I agree that the turf battles of the 50s-70s were absolutely crazy...every group fighting every other group....so people of color certianly do not have the market cornered on thuggery, violence, fighting, or street culture. It just so happens that for the past 20 years, people of color have solely been synonymous with this behavior...but the reality is it applies to ALL groups.
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Old 07-10-2008, 01:21 AM
 
Location: Queens
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I'm white and I ain't well off. LOL. I don't relate to the rich white manhattan thing
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Old 07-10-2008, 05:54 AM
 
Location: Bronx, New York
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For those of who believe that the Bronx will not gentrify due to the housing projects, I strongly suggest a look at the Lower East Side over the last 20 years.

Gentrification is about supply and demand, not whitey!
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Old 07-10-2008, 11:02 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn
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Gentrification is about supply and demand, not whitey!
Or you could have kept the racial element out of your comment and said that gentrification is definitely about color...the color green.
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Old 07-10-2008, 11:48 AM
 
Location: Bronx, NY
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For those of who believe that the Bronx will not gentrify due to the housing projects, I strongly suggest a look at the Lower East Side over the last 20 years.

Gentrification is about supply and demand, not whitey!
What are you talking about? The projects there still house the poor and are not really any safe.
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Old 07-10-2008, 12:54 PM
 
Location: Bronx, NY
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What are you talking about? The projects there still house the poor and are not really any safe.
I think his point was that the PJ's wont get in the way of gentrification happening. LES being a prime example.

Get your reading comprehension game up...lol.
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