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View Poll Results: In your opinion is crime citywide up or down since 2005?
Up 84 48.84%
Down 88 51.16%
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Old 04-25-2009, 04:01 PM
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Yet Sobro expects us to belive that the neighborhood is improving so rapidly that in 3 years crime will be extinct.
Yeah, he's been doing that for a few years. Thankfully, some of us know the truth.
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Old 04-25-2009, 04:34 PM
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There are areas in NYC with serious violent crime problems: Harlem and Washington Heights, a good chunk of Brooklyn and the Bronx, finally smaller areas in Queens, Staten Island and lower Manhattan public housing. That is undeniable.

I would like to say violent crime in general in these areas has been on the rise in the last few years for various reasons. Beyond the fact we are now in a recession, living cost in the city have only gone up. Struggle is on the rise, many children are on the streets, being raised by the streets. Other issues like overpopulation and horrid schools can be blamed and little is being done.

If crime is not up now, it soon will be in time. In the end though it will be the people in these communities effected the most. Not like much has changed. Went from terrible to not as terrible but still terrible for the people in these neighborhoods.

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Old 04-25-2009, 06:27 PM
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There are areas in NYC with serious violent crime problems: Harlem and Washington Heights, a good chunk of Brooklyn and the Bronx, finally smaller areas in Queens, Staten Island and lower Manhattan public housing. That is undeniable.

I would like to say violent crime in general in these areas has been on the rise in the last few years for various reasons. Beyond the fact we are now in a recession, living cost in the city have only gone up. Struggle is on the rise, many children are on the streets, being raised by the streets. Other issues like overpopulation and horrid schools can be blamed and little is being done.

If crime is not up now, it soon will be in time. In the end though it will be the people in these communities effected the most. Not like much has changed. Went from terrible to not as terrible but still terrible for the people in these neighborhoods.

Nice post you know what your talking about.

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Old 04-26-2009, 10:41 AM
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Look at the Gothamist newsmap. What happened in Harlem?

It says a triple shooting. a double shooting and a regular shooting all at different times last night.
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Look at the Gothamist newsmap. What happened in Harlem?

It says a triple shooting. a double shooting and a regular shooting all at different times last night.
Harlem is still among the highest crime places in NYC. Even gentrification cant stop it, go Harlem!

But really ...the "safest part" of Harlem, West Harlem, was as bad as the South Bronx in 2007.

It's perception really. People see all the new developments and gentrification in Harlem, others think Manhattan cant have any high crime areas...so it all leads to people thinking Harlem is safe. The truth is that shootings like that are common place in Harlem.
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Harlem is still among the highest crime places in NYC. Even gentrification cant stop it, go Harlem!

But really ...the "safest part" of Harlem, West Harlem, was as bad as the South Bronx in 2007.

It's perception really. People see all the new developments and gentrification in Harlem, others think Manhattan cant have any high crime areas...so it all leads to people thinking Harlem is safe. The truth is that shootings like that are common place in Harlem.

Yep especially in East Harlem i used to live there and I can tell you theres was a body every week there just in East Harlem.
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Yep especially in East Harlem i used to live there and I can tell you theres was a body every week there just in East Harlem.

My friend lives there. Im there all the time(day and night and early morning). Its not that bad.
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My friend lives there. Im there all the time(day and night and early morning). Its not that bad.
Just because things don't happen before your eyes, doesn't mean that they don't happen.
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Old 04-26-2009, 06:25 PM
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My friend lives there. Im there all the time(day and night and early morning). Its not that bad.

Not that bad....... See theres a difference between staying there alot and living their for 22 Years as I have.
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i looked at that gothamist thing and they were saying there were shots fired by elder and watson, i was up at that time and i live really close to it and i didnt hear a thing
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