The Official NYC Crime Thread (New York, Patchogue: crime rates, home, school)

[KRS88]

Originally Posted by analyticalkeys

To go even further, police won't bother with petty amounts.. so unless they know about a huge sale in advance, they won't bother to do anything about it.

With all the dirty cops in nyc who are involved in the drug trade their are rarely any major weed busts in the city.

[NooYowkur81]

Is anybody really making a killing selling weed though? I get the feeling most of the dudes out there maybe even as much as 90% are petty dealers. Think about how many weed dealers there must be in this city. The suppliers are making all the money.

With crack it was very different because it was such an addictive high. People basically mortgaged their lives for it. You had guys coming off boats and making 6 figures (imagine how much the more sophisticated dealers were making) by the end of the year selling crack. This caused a lot of people to come in and try to make quick money and this created a lot of street competition. Where I grew up in 160th in Wash. Heights. What a hell hole! Sometimes I sit back in amazement thinking how the hell did I make it out of there. During the peak years there were street battles all the time between rival drug dealers, on a weekly basis. Our parents trained us to get on the ground whenever we heard bullets and crawl like soldiers. I also remember some major drug busts by feds that sounded like wars. Like bombs were going off. We lived right on the first floor and one time a bullet actually came into our apartment from outside. It hit a VCR!! That could have been me or my parents or sis. Crazy stuff.

[KRS88]

Originally Posted by NooYowkur81

Is anybody really making a killing selling weed though? I get the feeling most of the dudes out there maybe even as much as 90% are petty dealers. Think about how many weed dealers there must be in this city. The suppliers are making all the money.

With crack it was very different because it was such an addictive high. People basically mortgaged their lives for it. You had guys coming off boats and making 6 figures (imagine how much the more sophisticated dealers were making) by the end of the year selling crack. This caused a lot of people to come in and try to make quick money and this created a lot of street competition. Where I grew up in 160th in Wash. Heights. What a hell hole! Sometimes I sit back in amazement thinking how the hell did I make it out of there. There were street battles all the time between rival drug dealers, on a weekly basis. Our parents trained us to get on the ground whenever we heard bullets. I also remember some major drug busts by feds that sounded like wars. Like bombs were going off. We lived right on the first floor and one time a bullet actually came into our apartment from outside. It hit a VCR!! That could have been me or my parents or sis. Crazy stuff.

Well you will make enough to live comfterably but no scarface mansions Although I do know 2 crews in queens and In Morrisania tghat make 300,000 a year since they have heavy markets.

[SobroGuy]

Hey Mo...where do you live (i.e. where are you and your girlfriend coming from)? Furthermore, I don't think you should take these high profile crimes and get scared as they happen everywhere. Keep in mind also there are 8 million people who actually reside in NYC, there are 2 million that commute in everyday, and there are 45 million++ that visit NYC as tourists every year. Considering the crime stats, and the gargantuan number of people living/visiting NYC at any given time..the crime rates are EXTREMELY low. Futhermore, let's keep the links to the crime stats on this page also so people can have SOME idea what is happening in NYC as a whole AND in a particular neighborhood. Whether you believe the crime stats or not, they are still the ONLY gauge we have: NYPD - Precincts

[KRS88]

Originally Posted by SobroGuy

Hey Mo...where do you live (i.e. where are you and your girlfriend coming from)? Furthermore, I don't think you should take these high profile crimes and get scared as they happen everywhere. Keep in mind also there are 8 million people who actually reside in NYC, there are 2 million that commute in everyday, and there are 45 million++ that visit NYC as tourists every year. Considering the crime stats, and the gargantuan number of people living/visiting NYC at any given time..the crime rates are EXTREMELY low. Futhermore, let's keep the links to the crime stats on this page also so people can have SOME idea what is happening in NYC as a whole AND in a particular neighborhood. Whether you believe the crime stats or not, they are still the ONLY gauge we have: NYPD - Precincts

Not for Blacks and Hispanics the murder rate is 8x higher (56 per 100,000) in nyc if your a black or hispanic male.

[SobroGuy]

I don't doubt that it is higher for blacks and hispanics, but just about every stat is worse for blacks and hispanics everywhere, not just in NYC, so its moot.

[KRS88]

Originally Posted by SobroGuy

I don't doubt that it is higher for blacks and hispanics, but just about every stat is worse for blacks and hispanics everywhere, not just in NYC, so its moot.

Yes but in high crime areas of the city like Brownsville for example the murder rate is already high so it is as high as any other city in America.

[SobroGuy]

Well now you are comparing apples with oranges. We can compare a high crime area of NYC, like Brownsville, and a high crime area of any other city, like a specific area of St. Louis...and it would prove nothing, except that blacks and hispanics are more likely to be a victim of a crime in both high crime areas of the respective cities. If you want to compare one city to another, that's fine....if you want to compare a specific high crime area of a city, with a specific high crime are of another city, that's fine too..but they will both reveal the same thing. The reality is, NYC has VERY low crime rates. If you want to parse out specific groups/subgroups to prove a point...that's fine, but when you do that in just about every other city, the results are going to be the same: Blacks and Hispanics suffer disproportionately in just about every category across the country. So again, it's moot.

[KRS88]

Originally Posted by SobroGuy

Well now you are comparing apples with oranges. We can compare a high crime area of NYC, like Brownsville, and a high crime area of any other city, like a specific area of St. Louis...and it would prove nothing, except that blacks and hispanics are more likely to be a victim of a crime in both high crime areas of the respective cities. If you want to compare one city to another, that's fine....if you want to compare a specific high crime area of a city, with a specific high crime are of another city, that's fine too..but they will both reveal the same thing. The reality is, NYC has VERY low crime rates. If you want to parse out specific groups/subgroups to prove a point...that's fine, but when you do that in just about every other city, the results are going to be the same: Blacks and Hispanics suffer disproportionately in just about every category across the country. So again, it's moot.

Because those arent the real rates.

[KRS88]

Ok guys lets talk more....Over the last year do you feel the city or your borough has gotten safer or worse?