The Official NYC Crime Thread (New York, Newark: real estate market, safe area, housing projects)

[vitalove]

Harlem is not the worst neighborhood in NYC. Not by far.

It may not be fully gentrified, nor is it perfect, but it is definitely not the worst! Please stop the antics.

There are many horrible neighborhoods in Brooklyn and the Bronx that are not nearly as historically rich nor economically diverse as Harlem.

[justfarr1030]

Originally Posted by zac14

What is your hood?

Ditmas Park (Flatbush). It was a stabbing on Caton & Malborough, a shooting on E. 18th & Church, and a serious assault on E.23 & Ditmas (although not technically Ditmas Park but it's 2 blocks away from me so it's still my neighborhood). I also know of someone who was shot at on Ocean Ave & Newkirk though it's not up there.

[analyticalkeys]

Originally Posted by vitalove

Harlem is not the worst neighborhood in NYC. Not by far.

It may not be fully gentrified, nor is it perfect, but it is definitely not the worst! Please stop the antics.

There are many horrible neighborhoods in Brooklyn and the Bronx that are not nearly as historically rich nor economically diverse as Harlem.

I see no antics; only stats.

[zac14]

Originally Posted by analyticalkeys

I see no antics; only stats.

YA you cant argue there where not 7 shootings in Harlem last night

[justfarr1030]

I just read the Gothamist map that last night there was a shooting on Gates & Marcy. I have over 20 family members that live on Quincy and Marcy which is directly around the corner. On their block, 95% of the Brownstones are very well maintained, people within the block all know each other, and everyone looks out. It is very quiet even on a summer evening. Kids are always outside playing, having a good time and LITERALLY one corner over there is a shooting. What if some of my elderly family members that live there and walk with canes were getting off the bus and walking past there as they do everyday? Would they have ended up like the lady in Coney Island last week? What if one of the kids happened to run around the corner after a ball and was hit by a stray bullet?

This is a perfect example of how Bedstuy is now. One block is quiet and the next one over people think it's a western movie.

[justfarr1030]

Originally Posted by vitalove

Harlem is not the worst neighborhood in NYC. Not by far.

It may not be fully gentrified, nor is it perfect, but it is definitely not the worst! Please stop the antics.

There are many horrible neighborhoods in Brooklyn and the Bronx that are not nearly as historically rich nor economically diverse as Harlem.

LMAO...

The area of Harlem called St. Nicholas (the housing project & some of the surrounding blocks) is ranked #17 most dangerous neighborhood in the U.S.

Moderator cut: Rude I like when people pretend to know what they're talking about and really have no idea...it's really funny...seriously. If you don't know, just say you don't know. Why pretend that you're some kind of expert? Do you people get some kind of kick out of this? If you don't know then ask someone and then go do proper research to verify. Go to the neighborhood, walk around and talk to the people. Don't just assume because Bloomberg/Kelly said, "Oh, Harlem is safe now." that it's true. I mean c'mon, do you REALLY believe that? Moderator cut: Rude

Moderator cut: Not necessary

[KRS88]

Originally Posted by vitalove

Harlem is not the worst neighborhood in NYC. Not by far.

It may not be fully gentrified, nor is it perfect, but it is definitely not the worst! Please stop the antics.

There are many horrible neighborhoods in Brooklyn and the Bronx that are not nearly as historically rich nor economically diverse as Harlem.

You really must be from the Bloomberg for mayor party. Harlem has had around 14 shootings the past week and you say its not one of the worst hoods in the city! You need to open your eyes and see that this city's "official" crime situation is a illusion and many parts of the city are going downhill and quick....I said it when I first came on here in the summer the city is going to experience a big crime wave and it has. Crime is up when we admitt that then we can really work to fight the problem.

Shooting | 124 East 117 Street Manhattan, NY | 8/2/2009 2:47 a.m
Shooting | Lexington Ave 117 St Manhattan, NY | 8/2/2009 5:29 a.m.
Triple Shooting | 7th Ave & W149st Manhattan, NY | 8/4/2009 10:57 p.m.
Shooting | E 100 St & 2nd Ave Manhattan, NY | 8/6/2009 2:48 p.m.
Male Shot|1st Av & E 100 St Manhattan, NY | 8/6/2009 1:49 p.m.
Shooting | West 150 St Bradhurst Manhattan, Ny 8/9/2009 12:19 a.m.
Shooting | 126 St Manhattan, NY | 8/8/2009 5:28 a.m.
Shooting | West 126 Street @ 7th Ave Manhattan, NY 8/8/2009 3:08 a.m.
Shots Fired | 10 Paladino Ave Manhattan, NY | 8/8/2009 4:35 a.m.
Shots Fired | West 128 Street Manhattan, NY | 8/9/2009 2:01 a.m.
Shooting | West 132 Street 5th Ave Manhattan, NY | 8/9/2009 2:45 a.m.
Shooting | West 131 Street Lenox Ave Manhattan, NY 8/9/2009 2:39 a.m.

[Shizzles]

I've never believed the hype about Harlem. Some may call me insane-in-the-brain, but I feel more comfortable in Bed-Stuy than Harlem. All the NYPD units flooded up there to make it safe for yuppies and once that pulls back, oh snap!

I don't think NY is going down the drain, since all one has to do is look at some other cities. It's simply reverting to the mean before the next big rise/drop. The Crack epidemic inflated numbers while the 90s/00s boom deflated them. NY's natural homicide total IMO is 800-900/yr.

[zac14]

Well the city was a lot calmer last night
Shooting | 75 Covert Street Brooklyn, NY | 8/10/2009 2:02 a.m.
Shooting | Evergreen Av & Covert St Brooklyn, NY | 8/10/2009 2:01 a.m.
Shooting | 40-4 12th St & 40th Av Queens, NY | 8/10/2009 12:57 a.m.
Triple Shooting | Franklin Av & Bergen St Brooklyn, NY | 8/9/2009 11:23 p.m.
Stabbing | 205 East 112 Street Manhattan, NY | 8/9/2009 4:30 p.m.
Stabbing | West 184 Street @ Audobon Ave Manhattan, NY | 8/9/2009 9:28 p.m.

[SuperMario]

Originally Posted by vitalove

Harlem is not the worst neighborhood in NYC. Not by far.

It may not be fully gentrified, nor is it perfect, but it is definitely not the worst! Please stop the antics.

There are many horrible neighborhoods in Brooklyn and the Bronx that are not nearly as historically rich nor economically diverse as Harlem.

Oh please. Harlem at it's worst was as bad as anywhere in the city. Why do you think there are worst neighborhoods in the Bronx or Brooklyn? Let me guess, Harlem is in Manhattan lol. Really, I wouldn't hesitate to call Harlem the worst nabe in the city. It may not be, but it's closer to being the worst than it is decent.

Check the 2007 crime map, and please look at the crime statistics there. Look at all the shootings that happen there recently. Im always in Harlem and it's a rough place. I'm not saying the whole neighborhood, but there are still alot of bad elements in Harlem.