The Official NYC Crime Thread (Kingston, Bedford: transplants, tenants, metropolitan) - New York City - New York - Page 65 - City-Data Forum

zac14 · 08-23-2009, 08:53 PM

analyticalkeys · 08-23-2009, 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zac14

A lot of early morning shootings I see.. So much for the "late night is the only bad time" theory.

justfarr1030 · 08-25-2009, 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elvira Black

It's really weird, but when I see the police blotter in the dailies they almost never ever mention the Bronx. I think that's far from coincidental...after all, there's lots of positive publicity about the Bronx now. When it comes to the media, perception is reality. It's not only what they print, but what they dont that shapes what others know and believe.

There's a local Bronx weekly paper (The Bronx Times?) that has a police blotter for each precinct. But the police blotter for the Daily News? or NY Post? I think it's the News....has stuff for Brooklyn and Manhattan but I'd say I've almost never, ever seen anything for the Bronx.

You're right.

As the old saying goes, perception IS reality. The FACT is that images (whether people know it to be true or not) are VERY powerful. If you constantly portray a certain image to an audience then subconsciously they will internalize it and thus it manifests into the individuals reality. That is the purpose the media serves for the powers that be.

justfarr1030 · 08-25-2009, 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NastyNas

I think the crime will be go down for 2009
check this: New York City Homicides Map - The New York Times

Compared to the last year we have 84 fewer homicides than the same period last year.
From 2003 to Now, we have 3488 murders.

Quote:

Originally Posted by KRS88

Thats a whole lot of Mod cut: language for the nypd to LIE and say their were 84 less murders this year than last........I personally think this year has been more violent and deadly than 08.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Infamous92

I think the NYPD is disgusting

, these lies gotta stop, I've been noticing more violence in 2009 than any other year I could remember. There were already 2 shootings tonight in the same general location.

Keep messing around and people are gonna have a false sense of security.

There is NO WAY that with all the violence this year that we have 84 less homicides than last LOL. Mayor Goonberg and Comm. Ray KKKelly are doing a great job with their stat manipulation but they took it to another level this time. From 1999-2009, this is probably the most deadly and violent year (since 99-01 time frame) and they're trying to pull this Mod cut: languageoff? All you have to do is pay attention and you can see how violence and crime has been on the rise (unless you live in some nice condo up by central park west or you're trying to sell real estate).

The bottom line is that Compstat numbers game has crushed any real chance of getting serious work done in against crime in the city, thanks to former Mayor Ghouliani

.

zac14 · 08-25-2009, 02:05 PM

Check out all this stuff
Waterfront cops guard against the Mob - but not on nights or weekends
Store clerk shot twice during wild wrestling match with gun-toting robber caught on surveillance cam
Paroled murderer arrested in fatal shooting of Bronx livery cab driver
Man dies when bullets fly at Queens eatery
Bronx man fatally shot as he returned home
Man shot at LaGuardia Airport

njnyckid · 08-28-2009, 03:40 PM

Checked out Gothamist and the shootings occured in, mostly, the usual places: Mott Haven, LES, a couple in Bed-Stuy etc.

It's pretty funny how the LES has been gentrified so much yet these past few weeks it's been a couple shootings in that area, particularly Alphabet City/Loisaida.

analyticalkeys · 08-28-2009, 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by njnyckid

Checked out Gothamist and the shootings occured in, mostly, the usual places: Mott Haven, LES, a couple in Bed-Stuy etc.

It's pretty funny how the LES has been gentrified so much yet these past few weeks it's been a couple shootings in that area, particularly Alphabet City/Loisaida.

Well, it makes sense if you think about it. Gentrification ADDS people to the neighborhood.. it doesn't, and can't take away people who live in the projects.. and I'm not saying that all people from the projects are bad, but a lot of those areas have problems with crime in the projects.. so why would this change after gentrification?

njnyckid · 08-28-2009, 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by analyticalkeys

Well, it makes sense if you think about it. Gentrification ADDS people to the neighborhood.. it doesn't, and can't take away people who live in the projects.. and I'm not saying that all people from the projects are bad, but a lot of those areas have problems with crime in the projects.. so why would this change after gentrification?

Well gentrification add AND takes away people. I definitely didn't expect it to change because as you said, it's too much projects, it's still a lower income area with a lot of issues, and plus no matter how many condos they put up that neighborhood will always look grimey. I was just talking about media pushing the whole gentrified word when it comes to LES even renaming it to East Village as if it's a new safe haven and it's clearly not.

analyticalkeys · 08-28-2009, 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by njnyckid

Well gentrification add AND takes away people. I definitely didn't expect it to change because as you said, it's too much projects, it's still a lower income area with a lot of issues, and plus no matter how many condos they put up that neighborhood will always look grimey. I was just talking about media pushing the whole gentrified word when it comes to LES even renaming it to East Village as if it's a new safe haven and it's clearly not.

Yea, the only thing I wanted to add is that it does take out people, but my point is there's certain people that it just can't take out.. and that includes some people who really need their housing, and some people who probably don't deserve to have housing at all.

zac14 · 08-28-2009, 08:27 PM

Two shooting in the lower east side today

Full-screen

Shooting E4th St Manhattan, NY 8/28/2009 3:45 a.m.
Shooting East 5th Street @ Ave "b" Manhattan, NY 8/28/2009 3:48 a.m.

View Poll Results: In your opinion is crime citywide up or down since 2005?
Up	85	48.57%
Down	90	51.43%
Voters: 175. You may not vote on this poll

Quick Reply
The following errors occurred with your submission

Okay
Message: Posting Quick Reply - Please Wait

Thread Tools	Search this Thread
Show Printable Version Email this Page	Search this Thread: Advanced Search
Display Modes
Linear Mode Switch to Hybrid Mode Switch to Threaded Mode