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11-04-2009, 04:51 PM
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Now Known As Famous92 :)
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Infamous where do you plan on going to escape crime, or at least this sort of crime? I have found that other larger cities are in fact more dangerous, where would you recommend?
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Every large city has good and bad spots so you can't really say a city is more dangerous than another, and plus its not like I'm going to be living in another city's ghetto. New York City's crime rate (every city's crime rate as well) doesn't reflect the whole city, its not some utopia.
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Hopefully we'll be Florida/Georgia bound in 2010.
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This.
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11-08-2009, 02:47 PM
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Brazen mugging reignites fears that Central Park is no longer safe at night
Interesting.
Does anyone notice for the past few months there's been more shootings/stabbings in the Corona/East Elmhurst/Elmhurst area consistently showing up on Gothamist?
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11-08-2009, 05:57 PM
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Haven't noticed anything in Elmhurst but if I did that would be pretty surprising.. Corona and East Elmhurst, I could understand.
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11-08-2009, 08:01 PM
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Early morning shootings leave one dead in Brooklyn; one critical in Queens
Brazen mugging reignites fears that Central Park is no longer safe at night
Teenager makes narrow escape after father stabs mother, kills self
Shots Fired | Marcy Ave & Myrtle Ave Brooklyn, NY | 11/8/2009 9:23 a.m.
Armed Robbery | 57-15 Northern Blvd X 58 St Queens, NY | 11/8/2009 9:23 a.m.
Bank Robbery | 420 Atlantic Ave Brooklyn, NY | 11/8/2009 9:24 a.m.
Armed Robbery | Central Park West @ West 97 Street Manhattan, NY | 11/8/2009 9:24 a.m.
Shots Fired / Foot Pursuit | West 140 St & 7th Ave Manhattan, NY | 11/8/2009 9:24 a.m.
Shooting | 1595 East 174 Street Bronx, NY | 11/8/2009 9:24 a.m.
Crime Scene | Holland Ave Staten Island, NY | 11/8/2009 9:25 a.m.
Robbery | 42 St & 6 Ave Manhattan, NY | 11/8/2009 9:25 a.m.
Home Invasion | 144 St & 120 Av Queens, NY | 11/8/2009 9:25 a.m.
Car Jacking | 79th St & Glenwood Rd Brooklyn, NY | 11/8/2009 9:25 a.m.
Shots Fired | 901 E 56th St Brooklyn, NY | 11/8/2009 9:25 a.m.
Male Shot | 34-41 Linden Pl 35 Ave Queens, NY | 11/8/2009 9:25 a.m.
Homicide | 110 Ave Queens, NY | 11/8/2009 9:25 a.m.
Shooting | College Ave & E 169st Bronx, NY | 11/8/2009 9:25 a.m.
Shooting | Manor Ave & E 174st Bronx, NY | 11/8/2009 9:25 a.m.
Shooting | Waldron As & Otis Av Queens, NY | 11/8/2009 9:25 a.m.
Shooting | Richmond University Medical Center E/r Staten Island, NY | 11/8/2009 9:24 a.m.
Shooting | 3441 Linden Blvd Brooklyn, NY | 11/8/2009 9:24 a.m.
Fear not, for crime is at an all time low 
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11-09-2009, 05:10 AM
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Crime has natural ebbs and flows. Anyone who thought NYC was going to somehow come up with 20% declines year-after-year until zero crime was left was smoking rocks. As long as NYS does it's best to nuture and sustain it's welfare class, NY will always have some level of violence.
The late 90s/early 00's was really NY's true crime rate. People act like there is only two levels of crime: The genocide of the early 90s or the extremely low crime of the mid 00s. IMHO, I think slowly we'll see a return to 1999/2000 levels of crime and then it'll recede a little from there.
Also, keep in mind that once the oh-so-hated gentrification slows, alot of dormant "elements" in those hoods will feel more emboldend. So be careful what you wish for.
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11-10-2009, 01:44 AM
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If you live in yuppyville and/or are trying to sell real estate then crime is down
If you live in hood and/or if you're a so called Black/Hispanic/Latino then crime is up.
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11-10-2009, 09:11 AM
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Not true, I live in a hood (Woodstock/MottHaven) and I am Hispanic, I can clearly see crime is down, or rather continues to remain down. A brazen mugging in Central park is nothing new...it happens every once in awhile...that's life in NYC. it just makes for great headlines..now if we saw brazen daytime muggings consistently, as in weekly, daily etc, THEN you would have something. These one-off crimes are nothing new and quite standard in NYC..with 8 million residents, 40 million tourists a year, and 2 million commuters coming in daily, you are bound to get a couple daytime muggins in central park. Hmm...so we have 1 daytime mugging out of 50 million people total per year...as well as about approximately 450 murders (estimated for 2009) out of 50 million people.
You can continue to post crimes in NYC, but whe you step back and look at the entirety of crime across the board in NYC relative to what it used to be 20/15/10/5 years ago, you will see the long term trend..and it is decidedly downward. Does that mean NYC will have zero crime in 10 years? Nope..nobody expects that. But it does mean it has grown more safe, not less so. Connect the dots over the past 20 years and then tell me you believe "crime is ridiculous" or "crime is rising." No evidence support that YET, and with the collapse of the economy, we are still seeing decreasing/stable crime rates. GO NY!
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11-10-2009, 11:31 AM
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I agree with SobroGuy. You can keep posting these crimes on this thread, but overall crime is down in the city. No matter how you want to prove how dangerous a neighborhood or the city is with these crime stories. Suburban people, people from other states, people from other countries and immigrants are and will still be flocking to NYC and to some of these neighborhoods. Whether you want them or not.  That is the circle of life in NYC.
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11-10-2009, 03:58 PM
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This wasnt happening so often 5 years ago......10 years yes but not 5.
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11-10-2009, 06:10 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SobroGuy
Not true, I live in a hood (Woodstock/MottHaven) and I am Hispanic, I can clearly see crime is down, or rather continues to remain down. A brazen mugging in Central park is nothing new...it happens every once in awhile...that's life in NYC. it just makes for great headlines..now if we saw brazen daytime muggings consistently, as in weekly, daily etc, THEN you would have something. These one-off crimes are nothing new and quite standard in NYC..with 8 million residents, 40 million tourists a year, and 2 million commuters coming in daily, you are bound to get a couple daytime muggins in central park. Hmm...so we have 1 daytime mugging out of 50 million people total per year...as well as about approximately 450 murders (estimated for 2009) out of 50 million people.
You can continue to post crimes in NYC, but whe you step back and look at the entirety of crime across the board in NYC relative to what it used to be 20/15/10/5 years ago, you will see the long term trend..and it is decidedly downward. Does that mean NYC will have zero crime in 10 years? Nope..nobody expects that. But it does mean it has grown more safe, not less so. Connect the dots over the past 20 years and then tell me you believe "crime is ridiculous" or "crime is rising." No evidence support that YET, and with the collapse of the economy, we are still seeing decreasing/stable crime rates. GO NY!
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LOL
First of all you're "stats" are WAY OFF. 2nd, as I stated previously you have real estate interests which is why you take this position (regardless that you consider yourself hispanic. And you suggesting that because you don't SEE the crimes every time you step outside your door means it's nonexistent or is subsiding...is ridiculous. Even during the so called "dark days" I didn't see crime ALL the time everywhere I went so that point is weak. Once again...
If you live in yuppyville and/or are trying to sell real estate then crime is down
If you live in hood and/or if you're a so called Black/Hispanic/Latino then crime is up.

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