Is the hostility towards New Yorkers justified? (Arlington, Boston: fit in, houses)

[tpk-nyc]

It's all about class and gentrification, not New Yorkers in general. The Lehigh Valley is within commuting distance to the city. In effect, they're still New Yorkers. If they had moved 1,000 miles away it would be different.

[vitalove]

Sad but true. We often get blamed for "changing" a place when the majority of the problems existed before we even entered the picture.

I find it most annoying that anyone can move here to our fair city and pay out the wahzoo and "change" our neighborhoods, but if we move anywhere we're considered the bane of human existence. Well, New Yorkers and Californians.

Sad. We're all Americans. Let's get over it.

[tpk-nyc]

Originally Posted by vitalove

I find it most annoying that anyone can move here to our fair city and pay out the wahzoo and "change" our neighborhoods, but if we move anywhere we're considered the bane of human existence.

The point is that it's the same phenomenon. Hipsters moving to Brooklyn are the same as New Yorkers moving to Pennsylvania. It's sophisticated and comparatively wealthy people moving into blue-collar areas (like Williamsburg or Allentown) and the current inhabitants feeling threatened.

It's all relative, and related. Is a graphic designer moving from Manhattan to Brooklyn for a larger apartment any different than a New York City family moving to Pennsylvania because they want to own a house? The same forces are at work.

It's easy (and socially acceptable) to be angry with the rich. In the city it's Yuppies and Hipsters, in Pennsylvania it's New Yorkers in general.

The traditional exurbs, like Fairfield County, Connecticut have had longer to adjust (or be assimilated/gentrified).

[vlorak]

whoa. Not a new yorker here. had always heard about new york stereotypes. i thought it was just a hype, nothing to believe, that is, until i moved to LI. hello. all i have heard about Nyorkers is, well, basically true. I used to love to come visit NYC. loved it. coolest place. right? but, rude, bad, bad drivers. very rude people. i believe years ago smiling and being friendly became a 'passe' for you guys.
did i say bad bad drivers? I can't count the times I have had close calls with bad aggressive drivers. NY pizza? Eight months here, and still have to find that 'NY pizza' everyone talks about. Bad pizza, bad drivers, rude people, unfriendly, dirty, damaged roads.
Now, I am one of those, not a fan of new yorkers, sadly having to live among them.

[bluedog2]

Originally Posted by vlorak

whoa. Not a new yorker here. had always heard about new york stereotypes. i thought it was just a hype, nothing to believe, that is, until i moved to LI. hello. all i have heard about Nyorkers is, well, basically true. I used to love to come visit NYC. loved it. coolest place. right? but, rude, bad, bad drivers. very rude people. i believe years ago smiling and being friendly became a 'passe' for you guys.
did i say bad bad drivers? I can't count the times I have had close calls with bad aggressive drivers. NY pizza? Eight months here, and still have to find that 'NY pizza' everyone talks about. Bad pizza, bad drivers, rude people, unfriendly, dirty, damaged roads.
Now, I am one of those, not a fan of new yorkers, sadly having to live among them.

How can you live among us when you are in Brookhaven ?

[LongIslandCitizen]

I am a New Yorker and have lived in many places throughout the U.S because of my Military career. You have to understand the mindset of many people across the country. People view New Yorkers as part of the problem and not part of the solution. Contrary to popular belief New York is responsible for electing that carpet bagger Hillary Clinton. Most of the country was stunned. In addition New York is very very blue. Anti-gun laws , High cigarette tax, many obama supporters , very liberal laws, high taxes, high real estate etc.

New Yorkers are viewed as very arrogant. Very rude. very overbearing , etc. Most of the country...of course I'll leave out California...I'm specifically speaking about the south, southwest, and middle America are more polite. It isn't hard to spot a New Yorker. New Yorkers are more confrontational. A New Yorker, and again , not all think it is weird to say hello to a stranger.

New York is actually way behind most of the other Major Metropolitan areas in the U.S. I know this is sacrilege to say but there are other places where fashion, technology, and science are way ahead. Lets face it... the suffocating taxes of this state have chased away a lot of industry and have made New York as a whole an archaic, stuffy place.

Lets take Dallas/ Ft.Worth Texas for instance. Their structures are fresh and new, their nightlife is hot. That whole area consist of three major cities in one area surrounded by sub cities called the metroplex. All of their sports arenas whether it be football, baseball, hockey, or basketball are within minutes from anywhere and tickets are always available. I am a Giants fan but look at Jerry Jones new Dallas Cowboys stadium in Arlington...Puts the new Meadowlands stadium to shame. Look at their Ballpark...the Yankees is embarrassing. Their Technology is phenomenal.. Their Police Dept's are equipped with state of the art mobile computers, videos, radars, GPS, Traffic control systems, and weapons systems.They have had these systems since the early nineties..New York has been slowly getting them since 2003 or so. Their nightlife is vibrant and there is plenty to do. Everything is accessible via modern highways. That area is a melting pot for professionals from all over the country.And many of the people there look good. And their accents rock.

Now a New Yorker still views Texas as cowboyish, desert, backwoods, and tumbleweeds. I understand that many New Yorkers have never left the state and stereotype lots of different places but that is what gives us a brash reputation. People actually want to like New Yorkers but it doesn't take long for one to put their foot in their mouths. A New Yorker can be rightfully proud just like a Texan can but you have to be a diplomat and represent this state.

In my opinion New Yorkers believe in a lot of things other parts don't. Liberal views are not welcome in a lot of places. A majority of the U.S feel New Yorkers are a threat to the constitution. I know that is probably an offensive comment, It is a strong comment but I have heard it over and over again. New York is very PC orientated and support lifestyles other places don't.

I really don't think Pennsylvania is in a position to get into a contest with New Yorkers...They have Philadelphia and that place is a mess. They need to clean up there own backyard before they point fingers.

Anyway much of what I wrote will be contested, I don't care because the premise of this thread was is hostility justified. While no hostility is justified toward anyone I am pointing out some key reasons that I heard while hanging out and becoming friends with the natives because I was myself. I will say though that women are very friendly towards New York men that present themselves well, lots of fun and more attractive...when I got back here I thought I was in prudeville, many girls were bland and very pale. Even unattractive girls were rude and arrogant . Must be something in the water. Just like cars..over here they age real fast but head west and 20 year old cars are still pristine.

[bluedog2]

Whatever ..... glad you enjoy the DFW Metroplex but you didn't have to end on a misogynist note.

[clevedark]

OK, wait, do the pristine 20 year old cars head west or stay in the east? I'm confused on that one.

[bluedog2]

Originally Posted by LongIslandCitizen

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In my opinion New Yorkers believe in a lot of things other parts don't. Liberal views are not welcome in a lot of places. A majority of the U.S feel New Yorkers are a threat to the constitution....

Then why is Obama our President?


[/quote]...Anyway much of what I wrote will be contested, I don't care because the premise of this thread was is hostility justified. While no hostility is justified toward anyone I am pointing out some key reasons that I heard while hanging out and becoming friends with the natives because I was myself. [/quote]

I can't figure out what this means so I can't comment.It makes no sense to me.

[LongIslandCitizen]

Originally Posted by bluedog2

Then why is Obama our President?

...Anyway much of what I wrote will be contested, I don't care because the premise of this thread was is hostility justified. While no hostility is justified toward anyone I am pointing out some key reasons that I heard while hanging out and becoming friends with the natives because I was myself. [/quote]

I can't figure out what this means so I can't comment.It makes no sense to me.[/quote]

It means that citizens from places beside New York told me what their impressions of some New Yorkers were.