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Old 04-09-2007, 04:46 PM
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Are there any parts of Harlem that havn't been Gentrified yet, maybe even way up by the GWB? And does anyone know if this areas will stay ungentrified? IM hoping they will, but im guessing they wont. I was there a couple of days ago to check things out but its hard to tell if things have been gentrified yet. Can anyone give me a hand with this one?

Also now that we are on the subject, does anyone think that we stand a chance in seeing rents stop rising in NYC as a whole? At some point these yuppies got to stop coming in!

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Up by the GWB, you're in Washington Heights. There is a Hudson Heights subsection a west of Broadway in the mid 180s. It is kind of expensive to live up there. Lots of musicians and actors live in that area.
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Old 04-09-2007, 09:53 PM
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Some parts to the east in Harlem still haven't even seen a whiff of gentrification but it is only a matter of time.

By the GWB like a previous poster mentioned is Washington Heights. Once you get up into the 200's and around Dyckman Street you are in Inwood.

Inwood is very similar to Washington Heights. It looks pretty much the same with the exception of the elevated subway.

Overall Harlem has been hit a little harder by gentrification. But most of Harlem is still in the process of gentrification. It is still rearing its head bit by bit. The process is ongoing.

A lot of Washington Heights and Inwood still isn't gentrified but be forewarned, an area not being gentrified doesn't mean you'll get a good deal. All it took was one or two surrounding areas to be gentrified for that whole section of upper Manhattan to be overpriced.

Inwood is very far from downtown Manhattan, so you would think the rents would be cheaper than they are.

Manhattan is pretty much done in terms of getting a good deal. It is all overpriced. Plus you have to put down a brokers fee pretty much every time in Manhattan.

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Old 04-09-2007, 10:56 PM
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For the ammount of money you'll end up spending on a decent neighborhood in northern Manhattan like Innwood or Hudson Heights, why not just move to Brooklyn or Queens? Sure, an area like Hudson Heights is quite nice, but there doesn't seem like there is much to do up there. Whenever I've been up there the first thing I notice is the dearth of stores. It is just apartment building after apartment building with a couple fo subway stations and staircases in between.
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Old 04-10-2007, 06:30 AM
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The area around City College was pretty seedy, with the exception of Convent Avenue. I haven't been back there for about 6 years--I wonder if anyone knows what its like now.
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The area around City College was pretty seedy, with the exception of Convent Avenue. I haven't been back there for about 6 years--I wonder if anyone knows what its like now.
It has changed quite a bit in the last 6 years. A lot less drug activity, well at least out in the open drug activity. There has been a concerted effort by the real estate powers to highlight the historic elements of that neighborhood and differentiate the area, hence the whole "Hamilton Heights," thing.

A few years ago everyone just called that area Harlem, or ignorantly Spanish Harlem because of the Dominican presence there, now I see more and more people referring to it as Hamilton Heights.

The avenue to avoid around there is Hamilton Avenue, ironically. The worse parts of that area are generally on this avenue, but even Hamilton Avenue has seen quite a bit of improvement.

The brownstones near there have all pretty much been bought and are in the process of being fixed and restored. Gentrification is an ongoing process there. It isn't the greatest neighborhood in the city, but I've seen much worse in my lifetime. It seems to have a bright outlook.

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Thanks for the info NewYowkur. I had a friend who lived over there on Broadway who had the biggest most beautifal apartment I ever saw in New York - 3 BRs dining room, maids room, Huge foyer. It was about 1200/month at the time.
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