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Old 06-10-2009, 09:41 PM
 
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Mod cut: rude I grew up in Queens and I know for a fact that Jackson Heights is not a great area, especially compared to Forest Hills. If you think it is a good area, then your used to living in that type of place and have not been exposed to better places. Ask any cop who works in that precinct, Jackson Heights is sketchy. The only area in JH that is decent is the area near 25 Ave in the 70s. I would feel safer in Forest Hills on any given day.
If you're going to say this kind of stuff (which I obviously don't agree with) at least please be consistent. In this thread you say Jackson Heights is "sketchy" "not a great area" "not decent" and "if you think it's good you haven't been exposed to better" etc.

Yet on the same exact day in a separate thread, you advise someone who is looking for a nice place to live that he should look in Jackson Heights?

I would love to hear your explanation for this one.

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Woodside, Queens (The area near Maspeth), Maspeth, Queens (the parts that boarder Woodside and Middle Village), Jackson Heights (streets in the 70s between Northern & Astoria Blvd.)
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Old 09-09-2009, 12:55 AM
 
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Anyone who thinks Jackson Heights is a bad area has not spent any time there. For starters, Jackson Heights is HUGE and is mostly comprised of houses, not apartment buildings. In the historic district, you have gorgeous buildings, most of which have strict co-op boards. Many professionals--shrinks, dentists, business people, teachers, etc.--live in these buildings. One building in particular, The Towers, has APARTMENTS that cost $750,000. Think about that long and hard.

Jackson Heights is mostly an upper middle class section.

Most people who judge Jackson Heights have only really seen Roosevelt Ave. People make comments like, "it's all Indians" or "everything is in Spanish." Jackson Heights is factually the most ethnically diverse neighborhood in the world. Many Colombians, Indians, Russian Jews, Mexicans, Koreans, Chinese, and so on. There is a little bit of everything here.

And there's a Farmer's Market at Travers Park on 35 ave every weekend.

The thing makes Forest Hills "nicer" is the fact it has a super wealthy "Gardens" area where $5 million mansions can be found. Also, the area is far more "American" with eateries like TGI Fridays, Pizzeria Uno, etc. But overall, the people are much friendlier and interesting in JH. While also diverse, Forest Hills is overwhemingly Russian and Eastern Euro--not exactly the warmest of neighbors. There's also a police precinct dead smack in the middle of the area.

Both are nice, good, clean, safe areas. But Forest Hills gets more favorable reviews because it is "whiter." But really, the shorter commute is in Jackson Heights. The restaraunts are superior in the Heights. The parks are nicer in the Heights.

My friend just tried to get into The Berkeley building in Jackson Heights. The co-op board told him if his mortgage is $2,000 per month, he is expected to NET $6,000 per month in salary. Meanwhile, in Forest Hills, half of the buildings say "no board approval."

If I were looking at this simply from an investment point of view, I'd go Jackson Heights all the way. A Starbucks just went up. Artists and yuppies are moving in the masses. The proximity to Manhattan and ease of access will always make the area a sound investment. Forest Hills isn't a bad investment by any means either. Kew Gardens is nice too. Woodside. Sunnyside. In general, overall, Queens is very nice.
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Old 12-28-2009, 08:18 AM
 
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Jh is a bad area . My brother was assaulted inside a deli andi seen ppl get shot and drugs is all over. Stay away from jh and even cops get assaulted and many killed. I am glad I finally move out.
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Old 12-28-2009, 09:50 PM
 
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JH is not bad. I have lived here for 3 years in the historic district and never had a problem.
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Old 01-03-2010, 10:39 AM
 
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Mod cut: rude I grew up in Queens and I know for a fact that Jackson Heights is not a great area, especially compared to Forest Hills. If you think it is a good area, then your used to living in that type of place and have not been exposed to better places. Ask any cop who works in that precinct, Jackson Heights is sketchy. The only area in JH that is decent is the area near 25 Ave in the 70s. I would feel safer in Forest Hills on any given day.
This is true. I was once going to Forest Hills on the subway and accidentally got off in Jackson Heights. I walked up the steps and knew right away I wasn't where I needed to be. I was curious where I was though and wanted to know how to exactly get to Forest Hills so I wouldn't get lost again. I found a cop to ask and went over to him. The cop said to me to run as fast as I can back to the subway b/c I (a single, young, attractive female) don't wanna be in that area alone...especially at night...but just in general. He told me it isn't a nice area at all and they have a lot of incidents that happen there- he told me even sometimes it scared him! I agree...Forest Hills is probably a better bet.
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Old 01-03-2010, 10:42 AM
 
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Anyone who thinks Jackson Heights is a bad area has not spent any time there. For starters, Jackson Heights is HUGE and is mostly comprised of houses, not apartment buildings. In the historic district, you have gorgeous buildings, most of which have strict co-op boards. Many professionals--shrinks, dentists, business people, teachers, etc.--live in these buildings. One building in particular, The Towers, has APARTMENTS that cost $750,000. Think about that long and hard.

Jackson Heights is mostly an upper middle class section.

Most people who judge Jackson Heights have only really seen Roosevelt Ave. People make comments like, "it's all Indians" or "everything is in Spanish." Jackson Heights is factually the most ethnically diverse neighborhood in the world. Many Colombians, Indians, Russian Jews, Mexicans, Koreans, Chinese, and so on. There is a little bit of everything here.

And there's a Farmer's Market at Travers Park on 35 ave every weekend.

The thing makes Forest Hills "nicer" is the fact it has a super wealthy "Gardens" area where $5 million mansions can be found. Also, the area is far more "American" with eateries like TGI Fridays, Pizzeria Uno, etc. But overall, the people are much friendlier and interesting in JH. While also diverse, Forest Hills is overwhemingly Russian and Eastern Euro--not exactly the warmest of neighbors. There's also a police precinct dead smack in the middle of the area.

Both are nice, good, clean, safe areas. But Forest Hills gets more favorable reviews because it is "whiter." But really, the shorter commute is in Jackson Heights. The restaraunts are superior in the Heights. The parks are nicer in the Heights.

My friend just tried to get into The Berkeley building in Jackson Heights. The co-op board told him if his mortgage is $2,000 per month, he is expected to NET $6,000 per month in salary. Meanwhile, in Forest Hills, half of the buildings say "no board approval."

If I were looking at this simply from an investment point of view, I'd go Jackson Heights all the way. A Starbucks just went up. Artists and yuppies are moving in the masses. The proximity to Manhattan and ease of access will always make the area a sound investment. Forest Hills isn't a bad investment by any means either. Kew Gardens is nice too. Woodside. Sunnyside. In general, overall, Queens is very nice.
I'm not racist, but generally "white" areas safer...generally. I understand there are exceptions. I'd rather have a longer commute and not have to worry about my life...than a shorter one where I might have to.
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Old 01-03-2010, 10:44 AM
 
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Well,I am a homeowner and I don't agree with you.

Suppose you had a good hunch that there would be a bigger appreciation in values over the next 10 or 20 years in some neighborhood that is a hell hole now.Would you really suffer living in the bad neighborhood for 10 or 20 years because you thought your house would increase in value more than if you bought in a more comfortable neighboorhood now ? That would make no sense to me,sacrificing 10 or 20 years (or 5) for a "potential" better return.

The Op stated that he is going to be living in this "investment". Your philosophy is fine as long as you are not going to be living in the investment.

There is more to life than asset appreciation.
So true. No one knows how the markets will be in years from now, or which areas will be good or bad to buy in. Buy where you feel comfortable now. Don't worry about the next 10 or 20 years...b/c you shouldn't have to compromise being happy for the chance that maybe you will make more $$ on your home.
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Old 01-03-2010, 12:31 PM
 
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This is true. I was once going to Forest Hills on the subway and accidentally got off in Jackson Heights. I walked up the steps and knew right away I wasn't where I needed to be. I was curious where I was though and wanted to know how to exactly get to Forest Hills so I wouldn't get lost again. I found a cop to ask and went over to him. The cop said to me to run as fast as I can back to the subway b/c I (a single, young, attractive female) don't wanna be in that area alone...especially at night...but just in general. He told me it isn't a nice area at all and they have a lot of incidents that happen there- he told me even sometimes it scared him! I agree...Forest Hills is probably a better bet.
like i said before, a cop will give you the most biased answer about how is crime for a neighborhood because they see all the crime. much more than what your average person who works and come home do. second cops dont live in the area they patrol. i would rather have info coming from a resident than somebody who does his shift and goes home, no offense to cops. and jackson heights has more crime than forest hills, but its still not a bad area, there are much worse neighborhoods in queens.
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Old 01-03-2010, 06:09 PM
 
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This is true. I was once going to Forest Hills on the subway and accidentally got off in Jackson Heights. I walked up the steps and knew right away I wasn't where I needed to be. I was curious where I was though and wanted to know how to exactly get to Forest Hills so I wouldn't get lost again. I found a cop to ask and went over to him. The cop said to me to run as fast as I can back to the subway b/c I (a single, young, attractive female) don't wanna be in that area alone...especially at night...but just in general. He told me it isn't a nice area at all and they have a lot of incidents that happen there- he told me even sometimes it scared him! I agree...Forest Hills is probably a better bet.
How many times have you accidentally gotten off the subway in what you thought was Jackson Heights?

You already told us a story about how you once got off at 65th St. on the R train, which supposedly some construction worker told you was Jackson Heights (which it's not -- it's Woodside) and that you thought it was such a horrible area.

So now are you saying that another time that you accidentally got off in Jackson Heights (not Woodside) and that this time a police officer told you to run back to the subway? And that he said to you that since you are a young attractive female that you should run back to the subway? Maybe if he said this, he just wanted to watch you run from the back.

If it's the same incident you are relating twice, I am curious why the details have changed, and also why you cannot get it through your head that 65th St on the R train is Woodside, not Jackson Heights. If it's a second incident where you truly mistakenly got off in Jackson Heights either at 74th St. or 82nd St., what I don't understand is why you continue to exit the train at the wrong stops and don't realize your mistake until street level.

Whichever explanation it is, it tells me that you really don't know this area of Queens well enough to be making any comments whatsoever about it. Please leave the advice on Jackson Heights to someone who knows the area, like QueensKid above.



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No the area I was in was not filipino or asian...it was spanish. I know not all spanish areas are bad, but this was resembling of Spanish Harlem. I'm not 100% sure it was Jackson heights, but I ended up there b/c I got off the subway @ the wrong stop and asked a construction worker where I was and he told me it was Jackson Heights.

R train go there?
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Old 01-04-2010, 09:28 AM
 
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Anyone who thinks Jackson Heights is a bad area has not spent any time there. For starters, Jackson Heights is HUGE and is mostly comprised of houses, not apartment buildings. In the historic district, you have gorgeous buildings, most of which have strict co-op boards. Many professionals--shrinks, dentists, business people, teachers, etc.--live in these buildings. One building in particular, The Towers, has APARTMENTS that cost $750,000. Think about that long and hard.

Jackson Heights is mostly an upper middle class section.

Most people who judge Jackson Heights have only really seen Roosevelt Ave. People make comments like, "it's all Indians" or "everything is in Spanish." Jackson Heights is factually the most ethnically diverse neighborhood in the world. Many Colombians, Indians, Russian Jews, Mexicans, Koreans, Chinese, and so on. There is a little bit of everything here.

And there's a Farmer's Market at Travers Park on 35 ave every weekend.

The thing makes Forest Hills "nicer" is the fact it has a super wealthy "Gardens" area where $5 million mansions can be found. Also, the area is far more "American" with eateries like TGI Fridays, Pizzeria Uno, etc. But overall, the people are much friendlier and interesting in JH. While also diverse, Forest Hills is overwhemingly Russian and Eastern Euro--not exactly the warmest of neighbors. There's also a police precinct dead smack in the middle of the area.

Both are nice, good, clean, safe areas. But Forest Hills gets more favorable reviews because it is "whiter." But really, the shorter commute is in Jackson Heights. The restaraunts are superior in the Heights. The parks are nicer in the Heights.

My friend just tried to get into The Berkeley building in Jackson Heights. The co-op board told him if his mortgage is $2,000 per month, he is expected to NET $6,000 per month in salary. Meanwhile, in Forest Hills, half of the buildings say "no board approval."

If I were looking at this simply from an investment point of view, I'd go Jackson Heights all the way. A Starbucks just went up. Artists and yuppies are moving in the masses. The proximity to Manhattan and ease of access will always make the area a sound investment. Forest Hills isn't a bad investment by any means either. Kew Gardens is nice too. Woodside. Sunnyside. In general, overall, Queens is very nice.
Not to mention the perception of Jackson Heights is mostly viewed from people that pass by along the (7) line. Most of them haven't gone up north to 37th or 35th Avenue. Once you are on 35th Av, it feels like you're a planet away from Roosevelt and 37th Avs.
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