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07-02-2009, 08:05 AM
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I know that Harlem has been seeing growth, mostly in the form of gentrification, but I would imagine that the outer boroughs might be seeing just as much growth, if not more.
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Yes, Harlem is probably the fastest growing part of Manhattan. Queens and Staten Island have seen a lot of growth too. Queens will likely be the most populous borough in a few years. Brooklyn's not growing nearly as fast.
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07-02-2009, 08:24 AM
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EXCEPT New York City's population growth is primarily from immigration rather than nation wide emigration which isn't really replacing the native population that left. IE, this is pretty much what has been happening with the city since the 70s.
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i agree with this.
my old neighborhood is full of immigrants. i don't want to start anything so i'll leave it there, but its just crazy that 5+ years ago you'd see certain ppl on certain stops on the f train and now its common to not see anybody of certain races/ethnicities until they get on at queensbridge.
smh.
i'm all for diversity but man...bodegas aren't the same, the neighborhood isn't the same, etc. the ppl i'm talking about are GONE.
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07-02-2009, 08:26 AM
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This may be an unpopular sentiment but I believe NYC's growth is an abomination. Its basically an open door policy to the third world. We have a national unemployment rate closing in on 10%, this isnt the 1800's where NYC + the USA were global economic engines, that ship has sailed and it isnt turning around. Enough already with taking on other countries castoffs, we dont have jobs for them and we dont have the economy for them.
Pennsylvania is a beautiful state that has blue collar towns that should have seen their life spans end gracefully but what has happened is those once productive blue collar cities have been turned into criminally infested slums mainly from the outflow from NYC's reckless growth. Enough already.
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07-02-2009, 08:46 AM
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 Um. That's cool for NYers I guess. In L.A. we don't want any more people. In fact, if NYC wants to take some people off our hands we'd be glad to oblige! 
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lol I don't want anymore people either. It's too crowded in the city. There's really no way to expand, but keep building up 
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07-02-2009, 08:47 AM
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Being that NYC had 128,961 births and 54,073 deaths in 2007 (latest figures I could get) this would give them a population increase of 74,887 just from that. A bit more than the total increase shown which seems to indicate more people moving out of NYC.
The percentage increase for NYC is .6% while the lowest percentage increase for the top 25 cities over 100,000 people is 2.7%
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07-02-2009, 08:48 AM
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Illegals and thugs have to go some place 
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You've really never been to NY, have you? 
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07-02-2009, 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by ddhboy
EXCEPT New York City's population growth is primarily from immigration rather than nation wide emigration which isn't really replacing the native population that left. IE, this is pretty much what has been happening with the city since the 70s.
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Absolutely.
NYC's net domestic migration is negative, and has been for years. The metro area has had a net domestic loss of 1.4 million people since 2000. People move here from other parts of country, but they are actually a relative few vastly outnumbered by many more who are leaving.
Only immigration - and the children born to immigrants - has made up for the domestic loss and kept the population growing.
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07-02-2009, 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Rachael84
lol I don't want anymore people either. It's too crowded in the city. There's really no way to expand, but keep building up 
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If they build up the business districts around the city like they said they would it could probably keep people in their neighborhoods to shop and be attracted to other areas of the city with increased public transportation. This would probably be good if they add other venues and attractions to the outer boroughs. We are suppose to reach over 10 million by 2030 anyway.
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07-02-2009, 09:59 AM
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It's both domestic migration and foreign immigration. ( Cities Grow at Suburbs' Expense During Recession - WSJ.com)
The real news is that the suburbs declined for the first time in a very long time.
"The Census data underscored how the recession and the real-estate slump have curbed migration, especially to suburbs and outer areas known as exurbs."
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07-02-2009, 10:01 AM
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This is a single-city specific topic, so belongs in the NYC room, not city vs city. Moving.
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