New York Leads U.S. Cities In Population Growth (Syracuse: section 8, apartment)

[jeepejeep]

Great, just what NY needs, more people to clog the streets and mass transit. This place is a mess already and getting worse. I'll help out next year when I pack my family and get outta here.

[eek]

Originally Posted by rainrock

This may be an unpopular sentiment but I believe NYC's growth is an abomination. Its basically an open door policy to the third world. We have a national unemployment rate closing in on 10%, this isnt the 1800's where NYC + the USA were global economic engines, that ship has sailed and it isnt turning around. Enough already with taking on other countries castoffs, we dont have jobs for them and we dont have the economy for them.

well said.

i could see if the ppl moving to ny were from the u.s. but these ppl are from various other countries. the national unemployment rate is 9.5%...i'm actually looking for a job and its very frustrating...then to see all these ppl that weren't there 5, 10 years ago and they have jobs...argh.
i sound like archie bunker right now, lol. i'm not trying to be racist, predjudice, etc. but come on. when are we gonna help out americans??
i'm black if that matters.

as a black person, i'ma say it. ride the f train. nobody black gets on (starting from 179th st) til you get to queens bridge. then nobody else black gets on til you get to brooklyn. smh @ this. black ppl got pushed out, i guess. used to see black ppl on hillside. used to. we're scarce now.
everything is east indian, west indian (but still east indian...non black west indians), asians, etc.

bodegas aren't even bodegas anymore. they're owned by mexicans...no offense at all. i'm happy for them. can you please leave more than one bodega with what you'd normally expect in them? everything has to be mexican oriented now?? really?

234234324324 billion indian shops with indian clothing.

i love diversity but this isn't diveristy. this is pushing out what used to be there and receiving a mass influx of only one or two groups.

[7 Wishes]

I'm actually not a fan of rising population in NYC. It will simply make housing even more unaffordable and drive all but the super rich and super poor out.

Also, it topped US cities in growth by number of people. That is not too hard to do when you have 8+ million people and the next nearest city in size has 1/2 the population (and most after that are much smaller). Yes, it is amazing that it is not stable or shrinking and still noteworthy, but wanted to put it in perspective.

[bluedog2]

Originally Posted by ddhboy

EXCEPT New York City's population growth is primarily from immigration rather than nation wide emigration which isn't really replacing the native population that left. IE, this is pretty much what has been happening with the city since the 70s.

Not really.Yes,there are immigrants coming in, as always,but that is not the primary reason for the growth in population.It's actually both.

The immigrants have not fueled the massive gentrification and real estate boom of the last 10 years.It is people from other parts of the country,young and old and people from Europe choosing to move here. They are displacing people at the bottom of the economic ladder who are being forced to the exurbs like Pennsylvania and Rockland county.

Some are saying that it is due to the recession but that's ridiculous too.The trend started long before the recession.

They can claim that it's due to anything they want until the 2010 census which will probably show a city with less poverty than in 2000 and probably an increase in the percentage of the white and Asian populations over 2000.

[MantaRay]

Originally Posted by bluedog2

The immigrants have not fueled the massive gentrification and real estate boom of the last 10 years.It is people from other parts of the country,young and old and people from Europe choosing to move here.

European transplants don't count as immigrants?

[wordlife]

The population is rising but the infrastructure needs to be updated, thats why we have congested trains, streets, highways. One thing that we have severely lacked within the last 50 years are Planners who are true visionaries who actually succeed in getting the job done instead of always presenting endless "proposals". If the subway had never been built and an project on its scale was proposed today, you know there's a good chance that it probably wouldn't be built or massively scaled back.

There's room to grow and it clearly shows since people keep coming to nyc but I just feel that the infrastructure has to be updated and expanded to help accommodate.

[Grenoble_slopes]

Census community survey estimates tend to fluctuate a bit. 0.5% population change in the stats might not mean anything. There is a large margin of error:

Trouble is, the sample was so narrow that its final figures come with a margin of error so wide that some are finding the tally useless.
The margin of error for the 114 California cities in the survey varied from 1.4% in Los Angeles to nearly 20% in Indio, depending on the number of households queried.

The Consensus Is Census Is Flawed - Los Angeles Times

[gradstudent77]

Originally Posted by urbancharlotte

Great news!!! NYC needs to keep growing. My birth place (raised in Charlotte however) should be the World's largest city. Hopefully, one day it will be.

We will never be even close again. Mumbai and Shanghai are at at least 13 million each in the city proper and growing like crazy, compared to nyc's 8.3 million. Tokyo metro is 40 million compared to our 20 million.

[gradstudent77]

Originally Posted by Akhenaton06

Where exactly are they moving in NYC? I'd like to know. I'm guessing Manhattan isn't seeing the majority of that growth.

In the last three years, nyc added 68,000 legal housing units, who knows how many illegal units are out there at any given time. This accommodates approximately 100-150,000 people depending on the mix of apartment sizes.

[gradstudent77]

Originally Posted by urbancharlotte

Actually, it could be Manhattan. Manhattan lost nearly half of its population since 1910 when it had 2.3 million people. By the 1980 census, Manhattan only had 1.4 million people. Today, there are 1.6 million people.

It could very well be that many folks are moving back to places like Harlem. Possibly the Upper West side and East Harlem as well. I am just guessing though.

manhattan had that sort of population because people were crowded into tenements like you couldn't imagine. We are at an all-time high for number of housing units in manhattan, its just that the number of people in each unit is probably at something like an all-time low.

Look up some jacob riis pictures: I'm talking about 15 people sleeping in each room: on the floor, against the wall, the lucky ones with a ratty mattress. Old-law tenenments were built with windows that had a foot of clearance before the next tenenment, 18 rooms per floor, two early 1900's families (mom, pop, 7 children, maybe grandma) sleeping/lviing/sometimes doing light inudstrial work in each room. Its wild to imagine.