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Old 07-17-2009, 01:30 PM
 
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Misrepresentation.

NYC has as many REGISTERED cars, but not all of them are "on the road" at the same time. They just can't be.
All registered cars are not on the road in Los Angeles/Miami/Atlanta/Houston at the same time either.

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Old 07-17-2009, 01:38 PM
 
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Lol, does it not strike you as odd that a city with about 4 million people has the same number of cars as a city twice it's size?
lol, does it not strike you that New York City's population has absolutely nothing to do with the traffic? Or this conversation for that matter?

New York has less land space than Los Angeles yet there are just as many cars which means New York City is more jam packed with cars.

Los Angeles = 10,519,330 cars/500 square miles = 21,038 cars per square mile.
New York City = 10,368,377/300 square miles = 34,561 cars per square mile.
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Old 07-17-2009, 01:45 PM
 
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lol, does it not strike you that New York City's population has absolutely nothing to do with the traffic? Or this conversation for that matter?

New York has less land space than Los Angeles yet there are just as many cars which means New York City is more jam packed with cars.

Los Angeles = 10,519,330 cars/500 square miles = 21,038 cars per square mile.
New York City = 10,368,377/300 square miles = 34,561 cars per square mile.
However, fewer people actually DRIVE in New York than in Los Angeles, which means fewer cars on the road on a daily basis.
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Old 07-17-2009, 02:40 PM
 
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The capacity of the added lanes is usually exceeded within a few years after they are built. Grade eliminations, exit/entrance reconfigurations and road straitening do more than any added lane can do. As many posters have pointed out, many of our Parkways are just no able to be reconfigured.
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Old 07-17-2009, 02:54 PM
 
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All registered cars are not on the road in Los Angeles/Miami/Atlanta/Houston at the same time either.
The thing is, with the lack of public transportation in the greater LA area, the chances of someone leaving their car at home is MUCH smaller than NYC.

LA is also MUCH more spread out than NYC. It is difficult to get from one area to another on foot or by mass transit, while most of the NY area CAN be walked, bussed, ferried, taxi'd, biked, and subway'd.

So, siting the sheer number of registered vehicles in the area is not a good indication of how many people drive them, nor does it answer the OP!

Don't force me to start posting bar graphs!!!!
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Old 07-17-2009, 02:59 PM
 
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However, fewer people actually DRIVE in New York than in Los Angeles, which means fewer cars on the road on a daily basis.

All you have to do is calculate the sheer amount of roadway space and then do the math.

Also, this does not take into account all the delivery box trucks, UPS/Fed Ex and others that just PARK on a lot of these roads. I also do not think that registration number includes the municipal vehicles as well. So there is a lot of traffic, filling the roads, and les roadway space (as noted in the OP) to accomodate it.


So, again, why less lanes? Less space, more $$ to make that space available.


Are we done yet?
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Old 07-18-2009, 04:06 PM
 
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lol, does it not strike you that New York City's population has absolutely nothing to do with the traffic? Or this conversation for that matter?

New York has less land space than Los Angeles yet there are just as many cars which means New York City is more jam packed with cars.

Los Angeles = 10,519,330 cars/500 square miles = 21,038 cars per square mile.
New York City = 10,368,377/300 square miles = 34,561 cars per square mile.
And it makes total sense for city with 4 million people to have more cars than a city twice it's size? That means that there is a severe lack of palatable alternatives in said city.

In New York, despite how crappy traffic is, you have an alternative. You can use the subway and the two appendages attached to the lower part of your person.

Regardless of how many car owners there are, well over half of all New Yorkers commute daily by public transit.
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Old 01-21-2010, 06:42 PM
 
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New york city is number 1 most populous city, and you've no reason to be disappointed about that. Yall streets and so may be small and all, but yall got some of the best shops, malls, plazas, and so forth. I never even been there, but when i see people who has, they say it's awesome. So be satisfied, and thankful.
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Old 01-21-2010, 07:33 PM
 
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How come New York metropolitan area (Incl. Northern New Jersey, New York City, Long Island), especially Northern New Jersey only have 2 - 3 lines per road (not incl. both sides of the road) on their highway? It's the most popolous metropolitan area, and the highest population density in the U.S.
And where would you like to put all these extra roadways? There isn't space for them! (Besides, people who insist on being married to their cars probably don't want to hear it, but the city with the greatest public transportation network in the world doesn't require you to have a car).
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Old 01-24-2010, 02:56 AM
 
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Default NYC = Anti-Car

NYC has been against the freedom that the individual car offers since the brginning of time.
Most of the existing roadways built predate the modern interstate highway system.
Due to geographical layout, NYC SHOULD accomodate one crosstown expressway between the Holland Tunnel and the Williamsburg Bridge, what was originally proposed by Mr Moses, in order to connect the land mass known as Long Island, which includes that portion of New York City known as Brooklyn and Queens. However Manhattanites are such snobby self centered bores that can't see past the end of their nose that they could never allow anyone to consider spoiling their trash can garbage dump in order to travel in any modern way.
That's reality and that's the end of my rant, but seriously one Lower Manhattan Expressway either underground or above ground would bring NYC into something past the 19th century, but noooo, not here.
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