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07-30-2009, 05:15 PM
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Is it true Portland Oregon has a lot of homeless? or attracts homeless.. I think cities need to take care of the problem right where it is. Maybe because of all the fresh Garbage and adandon buildings NYC has to offer, it's easy to live homeless there. The more homeless people gather to one area, I bet the less they are harrassed or driven away with a broom. Here's my off the top of my head solution:
An incentive based program to help eachother (the different kinds of homeless). They can each be required to build their own plan and given an assessment that includes their health and motivations, skills, goals, etc. This way, as opposed to a shelter, they are here not just to survive and pray, but to better themself instead of counting on the economy or their sanity to get them off the street.
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07-30-2009, 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by dhanu86
Is it true Portland Oregon has a lot of homeless? or attracts homeless..
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Yea, Portland has a very serious homeless problem, but it's a bit different than the kinds of homeless that we have. It's a lot of younger people from broken homes, and people who are on drugs, and have mental problems.. very different problems that are causing them to be homeless, than ours.
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07-30-2009, 07:46 PM
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So are the immigrants to blame over the administration? Whose job is it to serve the community? Give me a clue, please.
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Immigrants provide a very cheap and plentiful workforce in the low-skill economy, which is the same place many homeless people would be starting out in. This increased job pressure leaves many lower-income NYers left holding the bag job wise. Many low-income NYers would be better off in areas where entry-level jobs are less competitve, such as Philadelphia, The South or West....
As far as other states shipping social cases to NY, you can't really blame them with the bleeding heart mentality of so many here. There's help and then there is enablement, and since NYS makes the welfare lifestyle so easy and accessable, it attracts people like that.
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07-30-2009, 08:12 PM
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Since I live in a city that is not the biggest of the cities in America, but is well known for its huge homeless population I say this. Portland, Oregon has been a haven for homeless for decades. They have come here on their own or sent here from other cities. THere were several news stories about this, sending one cities homeless to another city done in the past years. There have been several stories by 60 minutes on Portland, and the reasons behind a city this small having such a large homeless population, especially those under 25.
I don't agree with sending a cities homeless to another at all. My heart goes out to the legitimate homeless person that has lost jobs and housing and is desperately wanting out of that situation. However the only way I would agree to airtickets to elsewhere would be this If there was a guarantee that in this new location, there was going to be someone or progam sponsoring this person. If the airfare to the new location, meant no more than the homeless person was again going to be homeless. Either living on the street or living off subsides provided by the taxpayer in that new location. THEN ABSOLUTELY NOT. I personally am sick and tired of paying for the tons of homeless that arrive here in Portland as hobos on rail cars, hitchhiking and cities than send them here. Much of this blame is on both the cities and fools here in Portland that have allowed this ignorance and arrogance to go on for decades at taxpayers expense.
It seems just a few years ago there was a story on the news about Salt Lake City sending their's to Miami or vice versa. There has to be some type of reasoning behind giving a person a plane ticket to only end up in the same mess in some other city. In fact I would say it is morally wrong.
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07-30-2009, 08:42 PM
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I think this is good!
Next step: Raze all the projects. PLEASE. I hate the projects! They're such a blight on the city.
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07-30-2009, 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by trustfundhipster
I think this is good!
Next step: Raze all the projects. PLEASE. I hate the projects! They're such a blight on the city.
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Ha good luck. Like it or not a city NEEDS poor to function, unlike a middle class, which adds to the robustness and life to the city, but not necessarily a necessity of function. Who's going to make your lunch, stock your supermarkets, and change your tires without them?
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07-30-2009, 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by trustfundhipster
I think this is good!
Next step: Raze all the projects. PLEASE. I hate the projects! They're such a blight on the city.
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No People like you are. If your name says anything about you I think hipsters are the people who are messing up the city by making it too expensive to live in.
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07-30-2009, 11:20 PM
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Originally Posted by snifferer
what's wrong w/ it? I think it sounds pretty good:
- relatives have to agree to take the homeless family in, so the homeless isn't simply "relocating" to another city to be homeless in
- not mandatory
- free flight to anywhere including international
- NYC saves $36K/yr for each homeless family
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There is a reason why some are homeless. Like drugs. If you were the only family a homeless relative had and you had young children. Would you let them in? Plus diseases.
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07-30-2009, 11:40 PM
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Originally Posted by ddhboy
Ha good luck. Like it or not a city NEEDS poor to function, unlike a middle class, which adds to the robustness and life to the city, but not necessarily a necessity of function. Who's going to make your lunch, stock your supermarkets, and change your tires without them?
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The last time I checked there was affordable housing in Newark, South Bronx and East New York.
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07-30-2009, 11:53 PM
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Originally Posted by trustfundhipster
The last time I checked there was affordable housing in Newark, South Bronx and East New York.
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Newark is too far for the poor to commute from, South Bronx is being gentrified, and Linden Houses cannot possibly facilitate all of the applicants who would need to be rehoused under your plan.
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