Are commuters real New Yorkers? (Buffalo, Hudson: apartments, to live, restaurants)

[Chava61]

Originally Posted by bmwguydc

Let's try to stay on topic, please, remembering the question "Are commuters real New Yorkers?" Notions of birth are cut and dry as one is either born in a place or not, but this debate is focused on a more subjective analysis as to the cultural definitions of a New Yorker. Thank you.

Are commuters real New Yorkers? My answer is no.
Real New Yorkers are not defined by one criteria alone. But certainly living in NY for a length of time is part of what defines a New Yorker. Someone who has never lived in NY and only commutes to NY is not a NYer.

[nycricanpapi]

Originally Posted by Chava61

Are commuters real New Yorkers? My answer is no.
Real New Yorkers are not defined by one criteria alone. But certainly living in NY for a length of time is part of what defines a New Yorker. Someone who has never lived in NY and only commutes to NY is not a NYer.

I concur with you. Let's say if a person is born in NY and then move to Cali. The person is not from NY, because he or she would not know anything about NY. A person who is from NY will know a lot about NY. A person who is from NY is a person who was raised not born. For example let's look at Tupac he was born in Brooklyn, and what did he represent? Cali, West Coast to the fullest, He stated that he was from Cali.. So...

[Beliciano]

I was not born in NYC. Born in the Carribean and moved to New York when I was eight. I consider myself a Carribean New Yorker.

[nycricanpapi]

Originally Posted by brooklynight

I was not born in NYC. Born in the Carribean and moved to New York when I was eight. I consider myself a Carribean New Yorker.

You can definitely consider yourself from NY

[captne76]

It's quite simple, commuters ARE the REAL New Yorkers, more so than those who are stuck living in that smelly zoo cage.

[Jdawg8181]

Originally Posted by bluedog2

But any "real New Yorker" knows that Harlem is about 9 or 10 miles and 30 mins on the subway from Wall Street while even close LI towns like Roslyn are 25 or 30 miles and well over an hour away !

Not even close. Roslyn is about 40 mins on the LIRR.

[Chava61]

Originally Posted by Jdawg8181

Not even close. Roslyn is about 40 mins on the LIRR.

I assume that Roslyn is about 40 minutes on the LIRR to Grand Central Station which is nowhere near Wall Street.

[Jdawg8181]

Originally Posted by Chava61

I assume that Roslyn is about 40 minutes on the LIRR to Grand Central Station which is nowhere near Wall Street.

LIRR doesn't go into Grand Central...it goes into Penn, which is closer to Wall St than Grand Central.

[bluedog2]

Originally Posted by Jdawg8181

some people in NYC travel further to work than people outside of the city. If you live up in Harlem let's say, and you work on Wall Street...that is a pretty long ride. Someone coming in from Long Island could have a comparable or even shorter ride...so, how can anyone say commuters are not "real New Yorkers?" If we work in the city but commute in, we have "paid our dues" as well.

I thought we were talking about a hypothetical commute TO WALL STREET from either Harlem or Long Island.
Again,the commute from Harlem is 9 miles or approximately 30 mins on the subway...to Wall Street.
Roslyn is is 25 or 30 miles and is 40 mins on the LIRR to Penn Station PLUS at least another 20 switching to a subway and continuing downtown....at least an hour travel time.
How could anyone possibly commute from anywhere on Long Island to Wall Street in a comparable( 30 minutes) or shorter time ?

[analyticalkeys]

Originally Posted by Jdawg8181

LIRR doesn't go into Grand Central...it goes into Penn, which is closer to Wall St than Grand Central.

Roslyn to Wall Street is still a longer trip than Harlem to Wall Street despite where the LIRR stops...