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No, that's incorrect. The modern Greek word is 'guros' which is derived from ancient Greek 'gūros' which means circle, which is related to the turning of the lamb on the spit.
Well, your version is also correct... in THIS regard, the problem can be akin to the American "some say "po-tay-to", some say "po-tah-to" thing... it's a matter of the individual's accent speaking the word. The point is, to pronounce it "jye-ro" is simply wrong, in every regard.
Well, your version is also correct... in THIS regard, the problem can be akin to the American "some say "po-tay-to", some say "po-tah-to" thing... it's a matter of the individual's accent speaking the word. The point is, to pronounce it "jye-ro" is simply wrong, in every regard.
No - the gamma in Greek CAN be like a hard 'G' in English, but it can also be pronounced like the 'ng' in 'sing' - thus 'yee-roh.'
And nobody has mucked up the beauty of the Italian language more than the Italian Americans themselves by lazily dropping vowels at the end of words like the A in mozzarella( mozzarell) and in Ricotta(rigott) or pronouncing terracotta as terra codder or terra code a instead of terra coat ta .
I can't speak about the Greek, but I have taught Italian for two universities here in the States...
There are some dialects of the language, particularly those of the southern regions, that often drop the vowel at the end of a word. It isn't the universally spoken Italian, though...just dialects. Most Italian-American families have roots in the regions south of Rome and the dialects and pronunciation of words like mozzarella and ricotta are passed down. We often hear things like "mozzarell" and "rigott" because that is actually how they are pronounced in some of the dialects of Italian that Italian-Americans speak or have been exposed to via their families.
I agree that we butcher foreign languages, though.
Funny discussion. I say "Jie-Ro" even though I know that's not correct, because I don't want to try to say it the "Greek" way and not say it right. So I keep safe and just say it the "American" way.
For a city that is so international and so diverse, I'm just in total shock that even the Greeks here seem to pronounce it "JI-ro."
I wouldn't have thought it a big deal, but I've just been incorrectly "corrected" for the third time.
We're not talking about a bizarre or unpopular dish that just made it to America here people.
This is funny as it reminds of how many Italian-Americans incorrectly correct you for saying the correct original Italian pronunciation of many popular food items or dishes such as Mozzarella. I would guess that the origins of this unfortunately are due to the Americanized or should I say Noo Yowk version of the word becoming the accepted standard. If I walked into most pizza spots or went to a halal cart and ordered a "yeer-oh" I would get a blank stare or I would be "corrected."
So let me get this right. If enough people do something incorrectly, it becomes correct? What awesome logic.
Yes unfortunately that is the case. While something might not be logically correct, it will become accepted or the standard if most people believe it to be correct. A lot of things in the world are like this if you take a closer look.
So let me get this right. If enough people do something incorrectly, it becomes correct? What awesome logic.
Well I both agree and disagree....
For one thing, there is such a thing as a loan-word. The French say "le weekend." But they don't say WEEKend like we do. They say weeKEND. Is that wrong? I'd say no... because it is now a French word, not just an English word. Same with calzone or gyro. They are now English words too.
Then on the other hand, when people do bad grammar things and I get corrected for saying it right I get pissed ("Marsha was mean to Adam and me" ALWAYS gets corrected even though it's right). :-/
So I guess people Anglicizing foreign words just doesn't bother me because it's a natural part of language and ALL languages do it. But people proposing that the rigid rules of grammar should change does anger me. Aren't I such a walking contradiction?
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