New Yorker or American (best city, living in, top)

[nycricanpapi]

NYer of course.

[Tony Of New York]

Americans can come from anyplace at all, but a New Yorker can only come from America.

[Fred314X]

Originally Posted by Tony Of New York

Americans can come from anyplace at all, but a New Yorker can only come from America.

I guess that sounds about right...speaking theoretically. But in actuality, a New Yorker can only come from New York.

[convertible1968]

In this day and age, a lot of New Yorkers are not Americans.

[Tony Of New York]

Originally Posted by convertible1968

In this day and age, a lot of New Yorkers are not Americans.

Culturally speaking.....but neither are some "American's." New York, like most cities in any age, is about a way of life not paper status.

[Joe84323]

No offense, but to consider yourself a New Yorker before an American demonstrates many characteristics of snobbery, and an apparent lack of pride in your country. You're basically saying you'd prefer to not be associated with the majority of the country. It's similar to saying "I'm not a New Yorker, I'm a Manhattanite." (snobbery.)

I consider myself to be, honestly, a lot more open-minded than the rest of the country, and I've seen tons of idiots from across the country, but, as different as we are, we're one group, and we're Americans.

Don't get me wrong.. I'm ashamed of a ton of Americans I see each and every day, but I'm still proud to be an American.

If anything I'd say I'm American and prove them wrong of their Jerry Springer impressions. If you have trouble saying you're American,Mod cut

[dreamgirl84]

No offense, but to consider yourself a New Yorker before an American demonstrates many characteristics of snobbery, and an apparent lack of pride in your country. You're basically saying you'd prefer to not be associated with the majority of the country. It's similar to saying "I'm not a New Yorker, I'm a Manhattanite." (snobbery.)

I consider myself to be, honestly, a lot more open-minded than the rest of the country, and I've seen tons of idiots from across the country, but, as different as we are, we're one group, and we're Americans.

Don't get me wrong.. I'm ashamed of a ton of Americans I see each and every day, but I'm still proud to be an American.

If anything I'd say I'm American and prove them wrong of their Jerry Springer impressions. If you have trouble saying you're American,Mod cut

Although you said "no offense" I take quite a bit of offense with you saying that anyone who considers themself a New Yorker before American makes them a snob. That is so not true, and I believe that regardless of what part of NYC a person lives in, when they claim themselves a "New Yorker" first, they are showing pride in their immeditate location. There are so many different kinds of Americans, to say that youre American first in many cases gives no insight into who you are, or what youre experience might be. Ofcourse New Yorkers have different experiences. But there is still a certain common ground among New Yorkers. When you say that you're a New Yorker, people automatically get something from it. Stating you're American states what country you were born. When my foreign co workers ask me where Im from I dont say American because its obvious, I tell them Im from New York, and then they question further "whereabouts in New York".... It about communicating your experience through where you work, "play", go to school, and live.


As for not being proud to be an American...lol...What is being proud, waving a flag 24/7? In my opinion the best way to go about being a proud American, is trying to take advantage of all the freedoms and opportunites we have (or claim to)... Im not uber proud nor am I ashamed of being American, however Ive learned that there are plenty of other countries that are doing just a good or better. So just maybe there are others out there that know that being American isnt the "end all, be all" In my opinion its those that are extremely proud Americans who can seem a bit snobby.

[Tony Of New York]

[quote=Joe84323;12247139]No offense, but to consider yourself a New Yorker before an American demonstrates many characteristics of snobbery, and an apparent lack of pride in your country. You're basically saying you'd prefer to not be associated with the majority of the country. It's similar to saying "I'm not a New Yorker, I'm a Manhattanite." (snobbery.)

I consider myself to be, honestly, a lot more open-minded than the rest of the country, and I've seen tons of idiots from across the country, but, as different as we are, we're one group, and we're Americans.

Don't get me wrong.. I'm ashamed of a ton of Americans I see each and every day, but I'm still proud to be an American.

If anything I'd say I'm American and prove them wrong of their Jerry Springer impressions. If you have trouble saying you're American,[quote]


It's not possible to be taken for anything but American by calling ones self a New Yorker. You're making a pure assumption about peoples answers to the question as it relates to another topic (national pride or patriotism). It's actually rather snobbish to think folks possess less or neither because they choose to identify by region rather than nation. I'm pretty sure most people aren't less proud or anti-American because they call themselves a 'Texan,' 'San Fransiscan,' or any other.
Calling myself a New Yorker makes sense to me because it's where I live. Being an American is a given. It doesn't have to mean more than that, nor should it.

[cotb16]

I prefer New Yorker, from the Bronx of course.

However, since I'm Dominican-Puerto Rican, I prefer saying that I'm DR-PR instead of American.

[Jdawg8181]

Originally Posted by dreamgirl84

No offense, but to consider yourself a New Yorker before an American demonstrates many characteristics of snobbery, and an apparent lack of pride in your country. You're basically saying you'd prefer to not be associated with the majority of the country. It's similar to saying "I'm not a New Yorker, I'm a Manhattanite." (snobbery.)

I consider myself to be, honestly, a lot more open-minded than the rest of the country, and I've seen tons of idiots from across the country, but, as different as we are, we're one group, and we're Americans.

Don't get me wrong.. I'm ashamed of a ton of Americans I see each and every day, but I'm still proud to be an American.

If anything I'd say I'm American and prove them wrong of their Jerry Springer impressions. If you have trouble saying you're American,Mod cut

Although you said "no offense" I take quite a bit of offense with you saying that anyone who considers themself a New Yorker before American makes them a snob. That is so not true, and I believe that regardless of what part of NYC a person lives in, when they claim themselves a "New Yorker" first, they are showing pride in their immeditate location. There are so many different kinds of Americans, to say that youre American first in many cases gives no insight into who you are, or what youre experience might be. Ofcourse New Yorkers have different experiences. But there is still a certain common ground among New Yorkers. When you say that you're a New Yorker, people automatically get something from it. Stating you're American states what country you were born. When my foreign co workers ask me where Im from I dont say American because its obvious, I tell them Im from New York, and then they question further "whereabouts in New York".... It about communicating your experience through where you work, "play", go to school, and live.


As for not being proud to be an American...lol...What is being proud, waving a flag 24/7? In my opinion the best way to go about being a proud American, is trying to take advantage of all the freedoms and opportunites we have (or claim to)... Im not uber proud nor am I ashamed of being American, however Ive learned that there are plenty of other countries that are doing just a good or better. So just maybe there are others out there that know that being American isnt the "end all, be all" In my opinion its those that are extremely proud Americans who can seem a bit snobby.

Exactly. America is no longer THE ONLY "land of opportunity" so-to-speak. There are many European countries that treat their citizens way better than we do...and have more tolerance. Example, we just have a black president now for the first time and it's 2010. Other countries are more tolerant of racial differences...(as well as some aren't.) As much as Israel is fighting it's own internal war, they had a woman in office. We have yet to see that.