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Old 08-09-2010, 10:00 AM
 
Location: QUEENS
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Originally Posted by njnyckid View Post
Northern Manhattan sees dramatic spike in shootings in 2010

And some people really think gentrification spread to Uptown that much that crime is suddenly gonna come down, clearly that's not case...

Just checked out stats, one murder isn't counted for the 40th precinct. Both of these happened:

Heartless thugs beat Bronx grandpa to death for his cell phone, killing him like an 'animal'
Ex-con executed just steps away from his Bronx apartment

Only 1 is counted.
They only counted 1 murder?

 
Old 08-09-2010, 11:24 AM
 
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They only counted 1 murder?
Check the stats next week. it seems since it took him a few days to die it might take longer for it to show up in the stats. If it doesnt show up, more proof of coverup/mislabeling crimes.
 
Old 08-09-2010, 07:39 PM
 
Location: NYC
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The bullet that killed a 22-year-old Bronx man in a wild Harlem melee Sunday was fired by a police weapon - not the man he was brawling with, officials said Monday.
Luis Soto, who was shot six times in the 3 a.m. Lenox Ave. pandemonium, died after one fatal bullet ripped through his heart, lung, kidney and a key artery, the medical examiner said.
Police said that bullet, which was recovered from Soto's body, had polygonal markings on it consistent with a police-issued semi-automatic handgun.
The only civilian weapon at the scene, a .38 caliber revolver, had different bullets.
The revelation dramatically upped the stakes of the investigation into the chaotic shootout, in which cops fired a total of 46 bullets and hit at least six people, including a fellow officer and three random bystanders.
No one had been charged with a crime as of Monday afternoon.
The shooting was sparked by a vicious fistfight between Soto and Angel Alvarez, 23, of Harlem, witnesses said.
NYPD officials initially said Alvarez shot and killed Soto with the revolver, then wheeled around and started shooting at four cops, who returned fire with a hail of semi-automatic gunfire.
Police said ballistics tests showed the 5-shot revolver was fired four times.
Witnesses came forward Monday to say the revolver did not belong to Alvarez but was instead in Soto's waistband, and some said neither Soto nor Alvarez fired it.
Several eyewitnesses said police officers - both uniformed and plainclothed - appeared to converge on the two battling men and open fire upon them.
"The cops started firing on Angel for no reason," eyewitness Jaffar Toomes told the Daily News.
A police source on Monday said several witnesses saw Soto and Alvarez struggling over the gun, and at least one witness saw Soto shoot it.
One of the responding cops said he saw Alvarez holding the gun and shooting at him, and so he returned fire, the police source said.
Toomes said Soto had the gun, not Alvarez, but that he never fired it.
"They were arguing. They were scuffling. The kid from the Bronx pulled out a gun," Toomes said, describing the commotion on the dark street.
"There were four fights going on at the same time. The Bronx kid was pulling a gun out of his waist. Angel saw it. They started scuffling for it," he said.
"The cops started to focus their attention on Angel."
Remarkably, Alvarez lived, despite being shot as many as two dozen times.
"He's been talking and been conscience the whole time. He survived more gunshots wounds probably in the history of America," said his lawyer, John Carney.


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Old 08-09-2010, 07:52 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn, NY $$$
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Originally Posted by mrmondaynight View Post
The bullet that killed a 22-year-old Bronx man in a wild Harlem melee Sunday was fired by a police weapon - not the man he was brawling with, officials said Monday.
Luis Soto, who was shot six times in the 3 a.m. Lenox Ave. pandemonium, died after one fatal bullet ripped through his heart, lung, kidney and a key artery, the medical examiner said.
Police said that bullet, which was recovered from Soto's body, had polygonal markings on it consistent with a police-issued semi-automatic handgun.
The only civilian weapon at the scene, a .38 caliber revolver, had different bullets.
The revelation dramatically upped the stakes of the investigation into the chaotic shootout, in which cops fired a total of 46 bullets and hit at least six people, including a fellow officer and three random bystanders.
No one had been charged with a crime as of Monday afternoon.
The shooting was sparked by a vicious fistfight between Soto and Angel Alvarez, 23, of Harlem, witnesses said.
NYPD officials initially said Alvarez shot and killed Soto with the revolver, then wheeled around and started shooting at four cops, who returned fire with a hail of semi-automatic gunfire.
Police said ballistics tests showed the 5-shot revolver was fired four times.
Witnesses came forward Monday to say the revolver did not belong to Alvarez but was instead in Soto's waistband, and some said neither Soto nor Alvarez fired it.
Several eyewitnesses said police officers - both uniformed and plainclothed - appeared to converge on the two battling men and open fire upon them.
"The cops started firing on Angel for no reason," eyewitness Jaffar Toomes told the Daily News.
A police source on Monday said several witnesses saw Soto and Alvarez struggling over the gun, and at least one witness saw Soto shoot it.
One of the responding cops said he saw Alvarez holding the gun and shooting at him, and so he returned fire, the police source said.
Toomes said Soto had the gun, not Alvarez, but that he never fired it.
"They were arguing. They were scuffling. The kid from the Bronx pulled out a gun," Toomes said, describing the commotion on the dark street.
"There were four fights going on at the same time. The Bronx kid was pulling a gun out of his waist. Angel saw it. They started scuffling for it," he said.
"The cops started to focus their attention on Angel."
Remarkably, Alvarez lived, despite being shot as many as two dozen times.
"He's been talking and been conscience the whole time. He survived more gunshots wounds probably in the history of America," said his lawyer, John Carney.


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so one person die with less then 10 bullets in his body , while someone with 21 bullets in his body survives lol.

life is funny at times
 
Old 08-09-2010, 09:03 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn, NY $$$
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nyc murder count is up from 2008. so i guess we are seeing more then 524 homicides this year?
 
Old 08-09-2010, 09:58 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn, NY
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Whistleblowing cop slaps NYPD with $50 million suit for locking him up in psych ward We really just can't trust statistics nowadays.
 
Old 08-10-2010, 05:38 PM
 
Location: QUEENS
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nyc murder count is up from 2008. so i guess we are seeing more then 524 homicides this year?
I guess so.
 
Old 08-11-2010, 05:52 PM
 
Location: Bronx, NY
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From the map that was posted earlier, I decided to rank precincts in terms of it's violent crime rates (per 1,000)

1. 73rd - 13.6 - Brownsville
2. 41st - 13.3 - Hunts Point
3. 40th - 10.1 - Mott Haven
4. 28th - 9.6 - Central Harlem (lower)
5. 79th - 9.5 - Bed-Stuy (western)
6. 48th - 9.3 - East Tremont/West Farms
7. 25th - 9.1 - East Harlem (upper)
8. 81st - 8.9 - Bed-Stuy (eastern)
9. 75th - 8.2 - East NY
10. 42nd - 8.0 - Morrisania
11. 103rd - 7.8 - Jamaica (40's)
12. 32nd - 7.7 - Central Harlem (upper)
t13. 44th - 7.1 - Highbridge
t13. 83rd - 7.1 - Bushwick
t14. 46th - 7.0 - Morris Heights-Fordham (lower)
t14. 52nd -7.0 University Heights - Fordham (upper)
15. 30th - 6.9 - West Harlem (upper)
t16. 26th - 6.3 - West Harlem (lower)
t16. 71st - 6.3 - Crown Heights (lower)
t16. 88th - 6.3 - Clinton Hill
t16. 84th - 6.3 - Downton Brooklyn
17. 43rd - 6.1 - Soundview

These are the ones with 6.0 or above..I consider this high crime.
 
Old 08-11-2010, 06:17 PM
 
Location: Newark, NJ/NYC
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Ok: 4 from the BX, 4 from BK, and 2 from Uptown fill the top ten. Pretty interesting that the 84th and 88th precincts, which have gentrified like crazy, still have a somewhat high crime rate. No need to mention that all of Harlem's precincts are still at the top.
 
Old 08-11-2010, 06:21 PM
 
Location: QUEENS
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You can't trust the stats.
I wouldn't be surprised if NYC is still dropping 600 bodies.
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