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Old 01-03-2010, 07:53 PM
 
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Last year salaries surged 40%, to an average of $160 a month,

peanuts to what u need to survive in NYC. im sorry but this isnt a good example.
It's an example. You said "give me a real life example", not "give me a real life example in NYC". This is economics in action. This will not happen in NYC because there is no shortage of workers in NYC.

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Mod cut If there is a shortage of workers, wages will increase and so will the final price of their product. They will not pay higher wages because even at minimum wage, there will be someone willing to work. You have no way of knowing whether their employees are legal immigrants or not.
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give me a real life example of when a company increased wage because of this and i will let the debate rest.

 
Old 01-03-2010, 07:53 PM
 
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How do you know that this person won't be a citizen? You are assuming.
i am assuming but in all honesty there is a higher chance of it occurring, so lets not turn a blind eye towards it. day laborers are a big issue in the city already.
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Old 01-03-2010, 07:54 PM
 
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affordable housing + section 8 do not equal drug dealing lowlifes.
Go head. You tell me. So what does:

Affordable housing + section 8 + welfare + food stamps equal what?

What kind of NY demographic is associated with the above?

What kind of demographic is associated with thug-life?

What kind of demographic is associated with NY crimes?

What is the demographic make up of workers earning minimum wage?

What demographic is complaining about low wage jobs for flipping burgers and attending cash registers?
 
Old 01-03-2010, 07:54 PM
 
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wow with that attitude it is evident that you see that the guy who sells u your newspaper, the guy that pumps your gas, the guy that rings up your groceries doesnt have a place in this city. well, to hell with it, replace them all with robots and maybe you'll be satisfied.
Actually, if you replaced them with robots, I don't see anything wrong with that.
  • There are vending machines that sell newspaper.
  • Many gas pumps are self-serve.
  • There are self-checkout lines in grocery stores.
 
Old 01-03-2010, 07:54 PM
 
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It's an example. You said "give me a real life example", not "give me a real life example in NYC". This is economics in action. This will not happen in NYC because there is no shortage of workers in NYC.

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yeah but you are comparing china's economy to nyc.....apples and oranges.
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Old 01-03-2010, 07:55 PM
 
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Actually, if you replaced them with robots, I don't see anything wrong with that.
  • There are vending machines that sell newspaper.
  • Many gas pumps are self-serve.
  • There are self-checkout lines in grocery stores.
and when any of these machines needs to be serviced, who will do it? lol.
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Old 01-03-2010, 07:56 PM
 
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yeah but you are comparing china's economy to nyc.....apples and oranges.
So given that there is no shortage of workers in NYC, wages can be kept low, and you can push low-income people out as long as there will be someone willing to work for you.
 
Old 01-03-2010, 07:58 PM
 
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i am assuming but in all honesty there is a higher chance of it occurring, so lets not turn a blind eye towards it. day laborers are a big issue in the city already.
So let the illegal immigrant work the minimum wage (or below min. wage) job. I have no problem with that.
 
Old 01-03-2010, 07:59 PM
 
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Who says they need to live close to their place of employment? Nobody is entitled to housing that is close to their place of employment.
nobody is saying that you're entitled to live across the street from your job, but you shouldnt have to live 2 hours away in another town or state either. In a city as big as new york there should be room for everyone to co exist...rich, poor,black,white they should all have access to decent neighborhoods with a decent lifestyle....Everyone should be able to take thier kid to yankee stadium or use the parks on randalls island or go to a museum not just the richest people...if you look back at history, in the 40's and 50's most of the city was working class...even in manhattan neigborhoods like the upper west side and hell's kithchen....in order for a city to be a city there should be room for everyone
 
Old 01-03-2010, 07:59 PM
 
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and when any of these machines needs to be serviced, who will do it? lol.
People service them. But it is cheaper to hire one skilled mechanic to service many machines than to hire and pay many unskilled cashiers / gas pumpers / whatever.
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