South Bronx/Yankee Stadium Area? (New York, Webster: best neighborhood, for sale, rental)

[Guywithacause]

Bronxpride..don't bother with that one..its pointless...not only is he older and from a different time/generation..he does not live here! No worries...lets stick to topic and leave it at that.

I for one see the Yankee stadium area as becoming the best area to live in in the Bronx because:

1-There is substantial investment, public and private, funnelling in.
2-There are major infrastructure improvements happening, like a new Metr0-North station, street lights, greening, parks, sidewalk upgrades, plazaa, etc.
3-Major retail is establishing a large presence, and will cater to the working/middle classes.
4-Easy access to major public transportation to NYC via a new Metro-North, the 4/B/D, the 2/5 at Grand Concourse....and loads of bus options.
5-A dynamic area that includes a fair amount of retail, bars, restuarants, all within walking distance

Those are just off the top of my head. If that is not indicative of an area on teh upswing and with alot of potential...I dunno what is!

[apvbguy]

Originally Posted by Guywithacause

Bronxpride..don't bother with that one..its pointless...not only is he older and from a different time/generation..he does not live here! No worries...lets stick to topic and leave it at that.

I for one see the Yankee stadium area as becoming the best area to live in in the Bronx because:

1-There is substantial investment, public and private, funnelling in.
2-There are major infrastructure improvements happening, like a new Metr0-North station, street lights, greening, parks, sidewalk upgrades, plazaa, etc.
3-Major retail is establishing a large presence, and will cater to the working/middle classes.
4-Easy access to major public transportation to NYC via a new Metro-North, the 4/B/D, the 2/5 at Grand Concourse....and loads of bus options.
5-A dynamic area that includes a fair amount of retail, bars, restuarants, all within walking distance

Those are just off the top of my head. If that is not indicative of an area on teh upswing and with alot of potential...I dunno what is!

you can put lipstick and fine clothes on a pig and you all you have is a prettied up pig.

[Guywithacause]

Bronxpride...do you own in the area or just rent? If you rent...have you considered purchasing? If you own..what do you own? i.e. condo/coop/singlefamily/multi-family?

[fasttracknyc]

The South Bronx is in transition in many places. I live in Wash Heights and my partner lives 2 blocks from Yankee staduim. I walk from my house across the bridge to the Bronx daily walking my dog. It's safe and fine. That is not to say that there are aren't rough blocks or parts that one would want avoid going alone late at night. For the most part I have been surprised and impressed with the Bronx. Before I went to the Bronx for the first time, I was nervous. Now I love it! There are some GREAT and amazing deals to be had in the coops there. You can get tons more space for the money and a first time buyer isn't priced out of the South Bronx the way that they are in Manhattan. Stick to the Morrisania, Highbridge, or Melrose areas. Find a realtor to help you weed out the areas you want to avoid....but you really should have a look. It's a great investment....prices will go up up up after the new stadium is done and they knock down the old one.

[bx718]

Originally Posted by BronxPride

......So now you tell me, who's wrong? Real estate professionals, investors/developers, me (long-time resident), or you (out of towner that probably never stepped in the neighborhood but loves to jump on the south bronx bashing bus ride)?

BronxPride, I think your opinion/experience, based on the fact that you've lived there for 20+ years, holds more weight than anything any real estate “professional” has to say…

The LAST person anyone should listen to is a Real Estate Agent, Developer, their immediate relatives, friends, their myspace/facebook buddies, extended family and anyone associated with "them" in any way. These are the scum of the scum of the earth.

They are responsible for gaffes such as SOBRO and WAHI……. Planting prevaricated “success stories” and “up and coming” neighborhood articles in the media whether on the internet, on T.V, in "respectable" news papers, simply to catch unsuspecting people in their web of greed, occurs as often as a cop saying “license and registration please”….

Since when was White Plains rd & Burke a “nice vibrant area with parks….?”…. While you’re living in your new “vibrant” neighborhood, paying thrice the rent as the person in the next building, getting robbed once a month, your “broker” is down in her/his beach house in Florida eating fresh lobster…


For those who think these "people" are any good, don't hesitate to contact me. Together, we can send them on their oh so overdue, all expenses paid vacation to basra, and let the insurgents, destiny, or both do the rest. If that doesn't work, maybe contact NASA, and have them strapped to the bottom of the next shuttle, for their existence is fine as long as it’s very far away from normal, non-obdurate people without insidious agendas……..

[Guywithacause]

BX718....your comment was a bit excessive. Let's remember that the nature of Realtors is to sell, which is no different than brokers in Wall street, Target, Saks, McDonald's, Home Depot, and everyother business/establishment that makes this country survive. They all need to sell to stay in business, however the difference is their livelihood, as well as the existence of the business/industry, is wholly dependent on selling. As a result...they will do their best to sell! Let's not blame the people as much as the industy/nature of the business.

Yes there are alot of bad realtors, but there are just as many bad executives, cashiers, waiters, business owners, bus drivers, teachers, etc. And if you think the realtors are laughing on the beach sipping mimosas...you do not understand the life of the average realtor. I believe turnover in the industry is about 80% per year...and those that remain on average earn less than $20,000 a year. So let's keep things in perspective.

I am not defending them..just providing some more insight into the nature of the business, and its place in our society.

[SuperMario]

AVPGUY I commend you for not letting that tool spread his BS propaganda. I want everybody to read this before reading BronxPride's post. He indeed has an agenda.

Originally Posted by BronxPride

Have pride in your borough bro. Riverdale is The Bronx! The stigma surrounding the Bronx will faze when all Bronxites unite under one banner. Or you dont think that people think twice before moving into Riverdale? They might know its safer than other parts of the Bronx, but they are still concerned because of the stigma. Sure there are bad neighborhoods in the Bronx, but within those bad neighborhoods there are good residents that are trying hard to change the image of their neighborhood. When we all work together we can help uplift the overall image of The Bronx. Your property value as well as mine will rise.

read the bolded part. The man is out to make a quick buck at the expense of everybody. I recommend everybody to avoid his posts in the future. He even goes out of his way to recommend his neighborhood to just about everybody.

Originally Posted by BronxPride

Check out Concourse Village/Highbridge/Yankee Stadium area. 161st & Grand Concourse avenue area. Nice parks, 2,4,5,b,d lines & express bus.

Originally Posted by BronxPride

Why don't you try Concourse Village. You'll have easy access to the 2,4,5,B,D subway trains, express bus to manhattan, and highways. It's the Yankee Stadium area. Great parks to relax (more to come in the future), new mall complex under development, and future Metro North station. First stop in the Bronx on the 2, 2nd stop on the 4,5 (1st if express - skips 138) and 1st stop on the B,D train. Great coops in the area. Search Grand Concourse, yankee, or walton on craigslist.

The truth of the matter is that Concourse is the area in the Bronx where the majority of Homicides occur. It is probably the worst neighborhood in the Bronx to go to if you want to live.

In 2003 the Concourse area had 15 homicides. Mott Haven in comparison had 8.

In 2004 the Concourse area again had 15 homicides. Melrose in comparison had only 4.

In 2005 the Concourse area had 10 homicides. Soundview in comparison had 5.

By far the most combined murders for any Bronx neighborhood from 2003-2005.

Just take a look at the interactive homicide map for those years and tell me that the area from 161st to the Cross Bronx from Jerome to Webster (Concourse) doesn't have the most homicides. It is the murder central of the Bronx.


Homicides and Crime in New York City - New York Times Interactive Graphic


Last year the 44th precint had 23 homicides. Most in the Bronx.

So I urge everybody not to take his post seriously. He is out to increase his property value. His above post even says if we work together we can uplift the image of the Bronx and our property values will increase.

And I just love the way he refers to the neighborhood as Concourse Village to sway people.

The man has no clue.

[Guywithacause]

SuperMario..I agree that he does push the nieghborhood to anyone within earshot..I have informed him not to just blanket the forums with "yankee stadium is the best ever" posts....as he will lose credibility quickly and to recognize that the area does not suit everyone. That being said..there is nothing wrong with being upbeat and positive about the neighborhood..and that he certainly is. Let's see if he refines his posts and becomes more balanced.

Furthermore, he indicates he is a resident of the area for the past 20 years, so saying he just wants to make a quick buck is unfair and wrong. And even if that were the case, he did his time the past 20 years...let him make some money as he has more than paid his dues...we are all here to make a quick buck at the end of the day.

And SuperWario..the name of the area is Concourse..unless of course no other neighborhood exists besides Bronx, Manhattan, Queens, Brooklyn? Mott Haven is a neighborhood...as is Hunts Point..nothing wrong with clarifying the area and making the actual name known. Nonetheless...I think his future posts will be more revealing.

[SuperMario]

His I'm right your wrong attitude doesn't help.

And I could care less if he's been a resident for 100 years no need to spread lies to improve your situation but worsen others. Honesty is a virtue.

And yes the neighborhood is Concourse. When did I state otherwise? It is not Concourse Village. There is no such thing.

But the Bronx doesn't really go by neighborhoods. People in Queens say I live in Jackson Heights, Corona, Jamaica......People in Brooklyn say I live in the 'Stuy, the 'Ville, the 'East....or Bensonhurst, Williamsburg etc.....in Manhattan it's Harlem, the 'Heights, Lower East Side etc

In the Bronx people go by address. I live on 183rd......I live on Prospect...Im on 167th, I live on the Grand Concourse etc......you should know that if you're a long time resident. Nobody refers to Mott Haven, Melrose, Morrisania, Highbridge, Morris/Uni Heights, E Tremont/Tremont. Fordham, West Farms, Hunts Point by name. Well, Hunts Point does go by neighborhood at times but its more because of its isolation. These were all assumed to be south Bronx. In fact in the 70's the subway map just had the name south Bronx covering those neighborhoods. That is why you rarely hear people say the names. They were lost in the 70's. But you constantly hear Soundview, Parkchester, Castle Hill, Rivedale, Wakefield etc....I live in Throgs Neck, I live in Zerega etc.....the names here were not lost to the south Bronx fiasco.

So I just give my address as should you. The 70's Bronx is burning influence has left an impact.

But on paper Concourse is right.

[Guywithacause]

Yes people do not go by those names anymore..but so what? Those are the names of the neighborhoods..and I for one prefer Mott Haven..to just the blanket South Bronx....as I prefer West Farms to just Central Bronx...and Woodlawn to just North Bronx. And I suspect now that people are using the proper names for these communities..it will become more common.

I dont think he has a holier than thou attitude judging by his posts. Maybe you are looking to much into them. I also agree that honesty is a virtue...but I think you are overly negative about the Bronx...does that mean you dishonest? Maybe he is overly positive about his neighborhood..so that would make him dishonest? I think it is different points of view, and not necessarily dishonesty. Nonetheless, I think he is not being totally balanced...which does not make him dishonest..it makes him biased.