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Old 05-15-2010, 10:52 PM
 
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I came to this forum while doing research on East New York, as I will be teaching there in the Fall. I was hoping to get a bit more information than I have already found. Clearly ENY is considered a danger zone, but it has been mentioned that some places in the 'hood are worse than others. If anyone has knowledge of the specifics of the area, I'd like to know just how bad the area I'll be in is.

I'm teaching at Medgar Evers College satellite school on Linden and Van Siclen. I'll be taking the 3 train to Van Siclen and Livonia, and walking to the school, crossing New Lots Ave.

My class starts at 6 PM and ends at 9 PM. So, yeah, I'll be there at night.

My main concerns are gang activity (stray bullets; a kid trying to prove his rep) and isolated areas (good places for a mugging). I'm also a white guy, so I don't know how that might play into it.

I've lived in Prospect Heights for 10 years, and have been in Crown Heights/Bed Stuy/Bushwick frequently, none of which I would consider to be dangerous or intimidating, so that's my point of reference.

Any info/advice would be seriously appreciated.
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Old 05-15-2010, 11:18 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn, NY $$$
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I came to this forum while doing research on East New York, as I will be teaching there in the Fall. I was hoping to get a bit more information than I have already found. Clearly ENY is considered a danger zone, but it has been mentioned that some places in the 'hood are worse than others. If anyone has knowledge of the specifics of the area, I'd like to know just how bad the area I'll be in is.

I'm teaching at Medgar Evers College satellite school on Linden and Van Siclen. I'll be taking the 3 train to Van Siclen and Livonia, and walking to the school, crossing New Lots Ave.

My class starts at 6 PM and ends at 9 PM. So, yeah, I'll be there at night.

My main concerns are gang activity (stray bullets; a kid trying to prove his rep) and isolated areas (good places for a mugging). I'm also a white guy, so I don't know how that might play into it.

I've lived in Prospect Heights for 10 years, and have been in Crown Heights/Bed Stuy/Bushwick frequently, none of which I would consider to be dangerous or intimidating, so that's my point of reference.

Any info/advice would be seriously appreciated.

the nice parts of east new york , are starett city , and spring creek but on a side note avoid every single housing project, and housing complex in nyc no matter the location they are all trash.
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Old 05-15-2010, 11:50 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn, NYC
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The 3 train isn't the best at all. I believe Livonia is close to Tilden Projects and those are seriously some of the worst housing in NYC. East New York as a whole is bad but if you can take a cab to and from the area that would be great!

I currently live in ENY and we're about to leave. It's just a pretty crappy place to be and we've had enough. We're looking at places in Astoria I'm excited because I've always wanted to live over there.

Good luck
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Old 05-16-2010, 12:14 AM
 
Location: Where the sun always shines
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Dude, that story got worse the more I read it; Van siclen Ave, 3 train, leaving at night;
I hate to break the news, I'm not sure if ur from NYC or not, but Eat NY is traditionally considered the murder capital. If u go to the NYPD web site, I think over a 19 year stretch, East NY led the city in murder something like 14 times! Being there at night only compounds your problems. THat stop on the 3 is awful and that walk can be an adventure at night. Both of my Grandmothers still live in East NY and me and my parents hate that they refuse to move out of there.

Also, the places that u named, Bed Stuy/Bushwick, how much time did u spend in those places? U never really get a good feel for a place unless u live there or work day to day.
I teach also, but as far as the location u named, i wouldnt teach there for 100k a year.
Godspeed!
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Old 05-16-2010, 10:29 AM
 
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Thanks for the info. It kind of confirms what I suspected.

I do know that ENY is dangerous (that's why I've never been there), but I also know that some sections of any area are worse than others. That's why I wanted to see if I could get specific info on that train stop and those blocks.

So, the 3 train out that way, and the Van Siclen stop are to be avoided? Are there even cabs/car service in the area?

Anyone else with knowledge of that section of ENY? The more I know going in, the better prepared I can be.

As far as my experience with other areas, I work in Crown Heights, never felt even remotely unsafe there. I've walked in BedStuy & Bushwick late nights coming home from parties, and never seen or experienced anything that raised any red flags. That said, I'm sure it is possible that there are blocks I haven't been on in all those places that might have caused me worry. Things in Brooklyn tend to be on a block-by-block basis, but from what I've read about ENY on this forum, all of it except a couple of pockets are bad.

Last edited by Tommy Callahan; 05-16-2010 at 10:30 AM.. Reason: typo
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Old 05-16-2010, 01:17 PM
 
Location: Red Hook Brooklyn-winter Derby Line Vermont-summer
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Having lived in Starrett City for almost 20 years and also being a white guy I learned that it was the only relatively safe area of East New York,in part because of their private security force.And even there I still got my bike robbed,mugged etc.The area you are going to is not as bad as it was during the crack epidemic of the late 80s and early 90s but it is not anyplace I would want to be at night,ever.Even the daytime is sketchy to say the least.Actually thinking about your situation is giving me some serious post traumatic stress flashbacks.Good luck in whatever you decide.
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Old 05-16-2010, 09:03 PM
 
Location: Sunset Park, Brooklyn
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Yeah, there are better areas of ENY which are specifically around the A, C and J lines. The area on the 3 line is definitely the "danger zone" of ENY. There was an article last summer of how 4 people were shot in one night in 3 different incidents on that area of Linden. I really would advise taking a cab because at night you don't know what could happen.
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Old 05-16-2010, 10:01 PM
 
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To OP,

You are a teacher and worry about your own safety. How about your students? Are they from the local area? Do they worry too?
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Old 05-16-2010, 10:32 PM
 
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To OP,

You are a teacher and worry about your own safety. How about your students? Are they from the local area? Do they worry too?
How is that relevant to this thread? Let the guy ask his question and get his answers specific to his situation. As far as I read this thread, he hasn't started yet, so in addition to your question being irrelevant, it is also moot.

I am reading this thread to learn something from the people who live there and have relatives there, and they do seem to be answering the question asked, so keep it coming!
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Old 05-17-2010, 06:03 AM
 
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I came to this forum while doing research on East New York, as I will be teaching there in the Fall. I was hoping to get a bit more information than I have already found. Clearly ENY is considered a danger zone, but it has been mentioned that some places in the 'hood are worse than others. If anyone has knowledge of the specifics of the area, I'd like to know just how bad the area I'll be in is.

I'm teaching at Medgar Evers College satellite school on Linden and Van Siclen. I'll be taking the 3 train to Van Siclen and Livonia, and walking to the school, crossing New Lots Ave.

My class starts at 6 PM and ends at 9 PM. So, yeah, I'll be there at night.

My main concerns are gang activity (stray bullets; a kid trying to prove his rep) and isolated areas (good places for a mugging). I'm also a white guy, so I don't know how that might play into it.

I've lived in Prospect Heights for 10 years, and have been in Crown Heights/Bed Stuy/Bushwick frequently, none of which I would consider to be dangerous or intimidating, so that's my point of reference.

Any info/advice would be seriously appreciated.
tsk tsk...van siclen and linden itself is not that bad of a corner, there's just some people hanging out at the little strip of stores sometimes. however i would absolutely not use the van siclen avenue train station, its not safe. a safer alternative would be to get off at pennsylvania ave and take the 83 bus down to pennsylvania and linden, then walk over to van siclen, which will be safer because you're going to be walking next to a huge, and well-lit racing track/park for the majority of the walk. it may take longer, but i feel its much safer.
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