NYC Private Schools (magnet school, live in, costs)

[scatman]

Originally Posted by kort677

glad to see it worked for you, but you must realize that baruch is a unique school, you will not get such a great deal with most of the other cuny schools. I wouldn't give you a nickel for most of them, and employers don't put much value on cuny diplomas, excepting baruch

I respectfully disagree. You are underestimating the fierce comeback CUNY has made, and I mean all of the colleges. They have toughened their standards and have gotten a bunch of grants and endowments in recent years, including that from Bill Mulcaulay, CEO of First Reserve (his donation was the largest ever from CUNY!).

In addition, many talented folk, particularly those from immigrant backgrounds who do not have the funds for a bigtime private school, are choosing CUNY.

Also, many bosses at many companies are CUNY alum, so that degree still means something.

Another thing: In an recent interview, Dominick Carter of NY1, a Syracuse alum (Newhouse graduate school), gave props to CUNY, and its bang-for-the-buck Journalism school! He is currently crying over sending his daughter to Syracuse, having to foot a $45,000/year bill! I'm sure he wishes his daughter chose CUNY, which is 1/4 the price of Syracuse!

[JoJoPGH]

I went to private school until high school. We moved out to queens so I wouldnt have to commute from Manhattan.Yes, my parents did that for me because they really believed I would get a better education at the PUBLIC high school then the private school I would have gone to in Manhattan.
There are so many private schools in manhattan, not all of the admissions processes are crazy. Also, there are some great public schools but it depends on the area of course.

[JoJoPGH]

oh and my public high school sent many graduates to the Ivies.
Growing up, we were zoned for district two. While we went to private schools for religious reasons, we had a great deal of friends who went to public schools. Their parents could easily afford private schools (most were diplomats given our closeness to the U.N.) but we were lucky to live in such a great district that offered foreign language classes, wonderful art classes, advanced studies for the gifted, and many other traits that paralled the private schools in the area.

[NooYowkur81]

Originally Posted by scatman

I respectfully disagree. You are underestimating the fierce comeback CUNY has made, and I mean all of the colleges. They have toughened their standards and have gotten a bunch of grants and endowments in recent years, including that from Bill Mulcaulay, CEO of First Reserve (his donation was the largest ever from CUNY!).

In addition, many talented folk, particularly those from immigrant backgrounds who do not have the funds for a bigtime private school, are choosing CUNY.

Also, many bosses at many companies are CUNY alum, so that degree still means something.

Another thing: In an recent interview, Dominick Carter of NY1, a Syracuse alum (Newhouse graduate school), gave props to CUNY, and its bang-for-the-buck Journalism school! He is currently crying over sending his daughter to Syracuse, having to foot a $45,000/year bill! I'm sure he wishes his daughter chose CUNY, which is 1/4 the price of Syracuse!

Your right scat. CUNY enjoys a fairly good rep these days compared to the 80's/early 90's. They made some changes in the 90's that have really helped turned things around.

An ivy degree is an ivy degree of course, but these days getting a degree from City, Baruch, Hunter, Queens, or John Jay gets you plenty of respect.

[roseba]

Originally Posted by gimme it

I have found that people who pay almost $30,000 per year for kindergarten have to justify spending this ridiculous amount. They HAVE to believe that public schools suck. I agree that not every public school is as good as ours (PS41), but we are hardly the only wonderful public elementary in NYC. I can see paying for private school from 6th grade up if your child does not get into one of the better and coveted public schools, but there are some amazing public elementary schools out there. I wonder what public elementary school the public hater is zoned for.

You know what the funny thing is.

People will pay for Catholic Schools for their kids, up through the end of High School, and then say that it's up to their kids to finance college.

Talk about miss directed priorities!

[Forest_Hills_Daddy]

The good public schools in the NY suburbs with a track record of sending graduates to top-ranked colleges spend approximately $20,000 per student per year. In some blue ribbon districts (ex. North Bruinswick), the spending per student is less. Why do these elite NYC private schools charge $30,000 per year? Where does the difference go to?

[Viralmd]

The difference is in class size (there were 22 in my graduating class), the cost of faculty and staff in a ratio of about 10 students/teacher (our class was divided into two groups), outings, facilities, being able to maintain a broad choice with respect to curricula for such a small number of students.

For the same reason that BIG cookies cost less to produce than small, delicate cookies, if you want another analogy, that's why it costs more

[jawjuhh]

I personally think that private school is far better than any public school. Alright, I will give you that there are a few crap private schools, but they're still better than most public schools. I attend a private school that I chose over the "top public school" in nyc, Stuy, because at my current school I receive a far better education, smaller classes, and better college admissions. You don't have to pay 30,000 to go to a good school. I'm in on financial aid and I only pay $750. Don't let price stop you from trying.

[Otis_Nevins]

Stuyvasent and Bronx Science are among the best high schools on the planet and they're really tough to enter. Be that as it may, my take on the horrendous NYC schools - aside from the magnet schools - is that it's a combination of educated, well-to-do parents refusing to send their spawn to the public schools, thus depriving such schools of good (assumed) students and caring parents, and the awful, horrible, etc. teachers and administrators infecting the restrooms called schools that simply act as holding pens and proving grounds for the next generation of violent criminals. Add in that the City criminal justice system simply does not incarcerate criminally violent "kids" for the duration of their lives (something for which I would not mind paying higher taxes), and you've got a dangerous public school system.

A couple of examples: one teacher I know was not aware that Puerto Ricans were American citizens - a TEACHER. Another had too much difficulty with prime numbers. However, both were big, strong and powerful. Excellent baby-sitting skills, but academically, bottom of the heap. Role models, maybe, but I don't want my kid emulating the "C's get degrees!" school of thought...

Note: if you're a teacher and I have offended you, please defend yourself. The above is my experience and I welcome any changes to my opinions.

[Rachael84]

Well, not all of us teachers are like that of course. I have high expectations for my students.