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Unread 05-30-2010, 03:25 AM
 
Location: On the Rails in Northern NJ
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The Problem with some New Yorkers is that i don't think they even leave the city , they just stay cut off form the rest of the country for months. There also way to news attached.

 
Unread 05-30-2010, 04:25 AM
 
Location: Northern NJ/Amagansett, NY
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Newarkboy-Having a city not register a murder in a month after what?? 26 years makes news because of the fact that it is still dangerous and newsworthy that no one was killed.Why would it be good news? Detroits poulation is about 4 x the size of Newark but I get the same vibe when I go there on business that I get when I go to ameeting in New York,and if you have been to your great state capital of Trenton lately it may be even worse.
Here is the thing though, Bridgeport, New Haven, hell most of the major cities in CT have similar crime rates, but nobody ever mentions that. They are a very segregatated state, much like NJ, yet people manage to concentrate on the "good" parts. It's all just PR. Then, lets not pretend that there aren't parts of Brooklyn, The Bronx, and Queens that are just as dangerous.

To say that NJ has "abandoned it's cities", couldn't be further from the truth. We probably redistribute more wealth to our cities than any other state. We spend $22,000 PER YEAR to educate each and every child in the Newark school system, we require new homes be built and rented at low prices so low income families can live there, subsidized by the tax payers. We build new stadiums, concert halls, etc. We have laws on the books that require these things, because that is where the political base is. The problem is that the political base is corrupt. Newark actually has some world class, brand spanking new, facilities only nobody will ever know it because as long as they allow crime to flourish, nobody will go there. They need a "Giuliani" type mayor to come in and clean it up. But ironically, the people who live there will NEVER elect a "Giuliani" type of mayor.

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Unread 05-30-2010, 05:15 AM
 
Location: On the Rails in Northern NJ
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Originally Posted by AnesthesiaMD View Post
Here is the thing though, Bridgeport, New Haven, hell most of the major cities in CT have similar crime rates, but nobody ever mentions that. They are a very segregatated state, much like NJ, yet people manage to concentrate on the "good" parts. It's all just PR. Then, lets not pretend that there aren't parts of Brooklyn, The Bronx, and Queens that are just as dangerous.

To say that NJ has "abandoned it's cities", couldn't be further from the truth. We probably redistribute more wealth to our cities than any other state. We spend $22,000 PER YEAR to educate each and every child in the Newark school system, we require new homes be built and rented at low prices so low income families can live there, subsidized by the tax payers. We build new stadiums, concert halls, etc. We have laws on the books that require these things, because that is where the political base is. The problem is that the political base is corrupt. Newark actually has some world class, brand spanking new, facilities only nobody will ever know it because as long as they allow crime to flourish, nobody will go there. They need a "Giuliani" type mayor to come in and clean it up. But ironically, the people who live there will NEVER elect a "Giuliani" type of mayor.
We have had a Giuliani type Mayor for 4 years (Mayor Cory Booker), he has cleaned up 70% of the city and got it some US / In't Media coverage in a positive light. The only bad parts of the city are the western sides , but the rest is cleaning up and reinvesting itself. Look at the Ironbound , Downtown , University Heights , and the North ward all reinvesting in themselves. Its not just outsiders , but the bulk of businesses are local owned. I think Newark is on the recovering path , it needs a slight push to get really going back its getting there. I know Staten Islanders that now shop and eat in Newark.
 
Unread 05-30-2010, 05:43 AM
 
Location: On the coast, east of the everglades.
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roflmao!
 
Unread 05-30-2010, 05:51 AM
 
Location: Beautiful Pelham Parkway,The Bronx
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I really hope that was sarcasm...
Ya,couldn't resist.
 
Unread 05-30-2010, 05:59 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn
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The Problem with some New Yorkers is that i don't think they even leave the city , they just stay cut off form the rest of the country for months. There also way to news attached.
The problem with some New Jerseyites is that they feel obligated to come to the New York City forum and start threads like this one.
 
Unread 05-30-2010, 07:34 AM
 
Location: England
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Default An Englishman in New York, New Jersey and Queens

I have read a few pages on this thread, and can't understandall this aminosity! I love visiting New York City, but I wentover to Hoboken with my wife to see were Frank Sinatra wasborn on our last visit. I thought Hoboken was a real interestingplace with some beautiful old buildings, same with Queens,had a lovely greek meal there - try to get on better!!!
 
Unread 05-30-2010, 09:33 AM
 
Location: Northern NJ/Amagansett, NY
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The problem with some New Jerseyites is that they feel obligated to come to the New York City forum and start threads like this one.
Well, no argument there. It is damn near painful to come over here and see a thread like this started. If you truly have pride, who cares what anybody else thinks?
 
Unread 05-30-2010, 09:42 AM
 
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Perhaps it is because most of the major cities in NJ seem like carbon copies of Detroit.Which BTW is not a good thing.
Nah
 
Unread 05-30-2010, 01:19 PM
 
Location: Newark nj
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AnesthesiaMD nobody goes there, try like 3 mil people went to Newark museum, Pru center, NJPAC,Riverfront stadium alone.
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