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Old 11-02-2011, 09:35 PM
 
Location: Glendale NY
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No it isn't Arthur Avenue has real Italian owned businesses, there are plenty of Italian families living in the area. It is heavily PR, DR and Mexican. There aren't that many blacks. Anyway Morris Park, Pelham, I think Country Club and Throggs Neck have nice Italian populations in the Bronx. In Queens there's Howard Beach, Ozone Park and Middle Village and in Brooklyn you have Bensonhurst, Bay Ridge and Dyker Heights. Staten Island is very Italian. New York use to be heavily Italian, Irish and Jewish a few decades ago and the whole blue collar feeling was still felt 20 years ago don't know what happened though. Can anyone describe Little Italy in Manhattan a lot of people say its fake never been there though.
Not that many Italian families left in Belmont, Bensonhurst [although there's still a good amount there despite what some people say], or Ozone Park [asides from far southern portions]. You could replace Ozone Park with Whitestone though, a lot of people forget that area, but it has the 2nd highest Italian population in Queens after Howard Beach.
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Old 11-02-2011, 10:15 PM
 
Location: Planet Earth
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I don't think it's that low, but the only section of Ozone Park that still has a significant white population is the southern sections near Howard Beach around Cross Bay Boulevard. There's some other whites here and there but Asians and hispanics are both larger.

Funny, according to the 2010 census, hispanics are declining in Richmond Hill. I wonder why.
Actually, it is that low according to the Census. Around Lefferts Blvd/Liberty Avenue, you see numbers like 4%, 7%, etc.

The White population is the highest around Cross Bay Blvd (around 20-40%), but it doesn't become a mostly White area until you get south of the Belt Parkway, which is Howard Beach.
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Old 11-02-2011, 10:38 PM
 
Location: Bronx
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I don't think it's that low, but the only section of Ozone Park that still has a significant white population is the southern sections near Howard Beach around Cross Bay Boulevard. There's some other whites here and there but Asians and hispanics are both larger.

Funny, according to the 2010 census, hispanics are declining in Richmond Hill. I wonder why.
To many indians.
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Old 11-02-2011, 11:22 PM
 
Location: Toronto
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The only problem with all these very nice and safe neighborhoods is that you have a very difficult time finding anyone who actually can carry on a conversation in Italian.A few words and phrases maybe but that's about it for the most part.

I scoured Staten Island looking for Italian culture and found none ! They don't even pronounce the vowels at the ends of Italian words like MozzarellA and prosciuttO
That's because in many regional Italian dialects (and languages if you will ), those vowels aren't usually pronounced.
Calabrians swallow their vowels a lot.

Very few Italian immigrants in the US (overall), came from Florence or Tuscany. Literary Italian is based on the language spoken and written in Florence and Tuscany.
And most immigrants spoke their own regional dialects and languages, which were often very different from the language spoken in Florence.

For example, Friulian is a language with about a million speakers and a literary tradition, grammar and vocabulary of its own.

I once met an Italian tourist in Argentina who had gone to meet an elderly uncle there. He commented that the uncle ONLY spoke Sicilian as he had minimal grade school education. Never had much of a chance to learn literary Italian.
He probably spoke better Spanish than Italian.
His nephew was a Sicilian patriot devoted to the struggle of Sicilian independence from Italy (I'm not joking ).
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Old 11-03-2011, 01:06 AM
 
Location: Glendale NY
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Actually, it is that low according to the Census. Around Lefferts Blvd/Liberty Avenue, you see numbers like 4%, 7%, etc.

The White population is the highest around Cross Bay Blvd (around 20-40%), but it doesn't become a mostly White area until you get south of the Belt Parkway, which is Howard Beach.
Lefferts and Liberty is Richmond Hill though, which always had a very small white population [well, even in 2000]. Richmond Hill starts off past 108 street. The census tract that I use to live in is about 11% White today, which is one of the lower ones in Ozone Park proper since it was right by the ENY border.

I have some white friends that still live in Richmond Hill, I don't know how they can stand living in that area.

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