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Old 06-08-2010, 04:28 PM
 
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This cauis something many people have discussed on and off this forum, and looks like it may finally come true:

"The proposed changes aim to increase the social and physical mobility of public housing residents and turn existing public housing developments into mixed income communities with market rate tenants."

"The changes also aim to attract private investment to those existing public housing developments. Such investment would help pay for costly, long-delayed repairs, which the agency projects total $20 billion. Public housing that receives such investment would remain under the control of the local housing authority for 30 years."

I think this is a huge positive step towards fixing the inherent segregation and societal ills that plague the housing projects in NYC. It will allow those who want to leave the ability to do that with automatic housing vouchers, as well as convert existing housing projects to affordable mixed income housing for the working/middle class. The private investment will also go to making major capital improvements that will ultimately make them an attracive place to live for a wide variety of the working/middle class.

HUD Proposes Landmark Changes to Public Housing - City Limits Magazine - CityLimits.org
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Old 07-10-2012, 05:43 PM
 
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this would be a good idea if they are not talking about putting those out who cannot afford condo or are middle income. so far no one is middle income, you are either poor or rich in nyc. yes these buildings are old and need repair but the tenants should not have to suffer because nycha robbed themselves and hired people who either do a half ass job or don't do their job at all. the tenants who live there should not have to be sacrificed because they are poor and because yuppies and others are moving to certain area,ex brooklyn. i can't afford to move back to brooklyn because the landlords have raised rents so high and all you see is unaffordable condominiums, it is ridiculous and shameful.
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Old 07-10-2012, 06:02 PM
 
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Sounds great but the story is over 2 years old and there haven't been any changes in NYC.Either the proposal never went anywhere or NYC is once again exhibiting it's public housing inertia.It's amazing what some other cities have done to change the face of public housing even without this particular initiative.NY is way behind in this regard because the local politicians don't really want things to change.

Here is what Boston did with one of it's most notorious projects:

http://places.designobserver.com/med...ject_t_204.pdf

And it has made similar changes to many other "projects" sine then.

It would be great if we could do this type of thing in NY.The type of housing projects we still have in NYC are just so last century.Yet they persist.
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Old 07-11-2012, 07:53 AM
 
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The changes also aim to attract private investment to those existing public housing developments. Such investment would help pay for costly, long-delayed repairs, which the agency projects total $20 billion. Public housing that receives such investment would remain under the control of the local housing authority for 30 years

And THEN what happens?
Is the proposal to GIVE these public buildings away to developers and large landlords?

It is a shame that money is wasted on HUD employees to dream up stupid schemes like this one.


Yeah, Congress is going to pour BILLIONS into housing...at least that's what the Red Queen told Alice and the White Rabbit.

If this scheme isn't in the garbage yet, it soon will be.

HUD was created in 1965 and the ONLY idea they could come up with about public housing in the half century following was to tear it all down and build a few townhouses, and then pat themselves on the back. Dimwitted, shortsighted cities like Newark and Jersey City fell for the moronic idea, but New York City did NOT.
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Old 07-29-2012, 10:58 AM
 
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these buidlings do need repair, i am the first to tell you being that i am one of those people who come from public housing. but ny is not doing it because how can you sacrifice others because you have outsiders moving to bk and harlem who are stupid enough to pay these outrageous rents for closets. we dont need townhouses and condos, what they need to do is fix these bldgs right in the first place and stop using half ass constructions company and wasting money. nyc needs to stop thinking about just money and forgetting about the people , the 99 percent, who made nyc what it is today. it should not be that i cannot afford to move back to bk or to harlem because the rents and house sales are ridiculous, and these realtors are only selling these high price and over priced pats for the 1 percent.
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Old 07-29-2012, 05:41 PM
 
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these buidlings do need repair, i am the first to tell you being that i am one of those people who come from public housing. but ny is not doing it because how can you sacrifice others because you have outsiders moving to bk and harlem who are stupid enough to pay these outrageous rents for closets. we dont need townhouses and condos, what they need to do is fix these bldgs right in the first place and stop using half ass constructions company and wasting money. nyc needs to stop thinking about just money and forgetting about the people , the 99 percent, who made nyc what it is today. it should not be that i cannot afford to move back to bk or to harlem because the rents and house sales are ridiculous, and these realtors are only selling these high price and over priced pats for the 1 percent.
If NYC gets to expensive for you, I suggest moving down south where you get more bang for your buck. NYC will only get more expensive. You can't stop it.
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