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Old 08-15-2006, 02:27 PM
 
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Default Moving to Utica

Hi All,

My family and I are considering a move to Rome/Utica neighborhood based on a job offer I have. We currently live in NYC but I am seriously considering the job offer. I was wondering if any one had any thoughts on good residential neighborhoods that we could look at. Ideally, we would like to be close to areas where there is access to good restaurants and any other cultural activities((theater, arts, things like that would be great).

I appreciate your thoughts regarding this. Thanks.

John
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Old 08-15-2006, 06:58 PM
 
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I am not too familiar with this region (Mohawk Valley), but I have heard that Herkimer is nice. I would definitely need someone to back me up on this one though.
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Old 08-15-2006, 07:02 PM
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Not sure about Utica, but Rome has many mom and pop Italian places that are excellent. Other than that, I'm not sure.
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Old 08-15-2006, 07:36 PM
 
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Yes, that is a VERY Italian area; the only county Upstate were Italians are the largest ancestry as a matter of fact.
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Old 01-04-2007, 11:28 PM
 
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Hi All,

My family and I are considering a move to Rome/Utica neighborhood based on a job offer I have. We currently live in NYC but I am seriously considering the job offer. I was wondering if any one had any thoughts on good residential neighborhoods that we could look at. Ideally, we would like to be close to areas where there is access to good restaurants and any other cultural activities((theater, arts, things like that would be great).

I appreciate your thoughts regarding this. Thanks.

John
It is quite a difference between NYC and Rome but Lee Center is a nice quiet neighborhood. It's not far from the Turning Stone Casino and near the Rome Art Center which offers many arts events and workshops. Lots of movie theatres in Utica and Syracuse and some close by in Rome. You will also enjoy the Adironeck lakes ...even Lake Delta which is only 10 minutes from Lee Center.If you are interested, we are considering renting our 4brm, 2 bth house which has been in our family for years. We live in Westchester and it's not convenient for us to commute often enough although we love the area in Rome NY.
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Old 02-05-2007, 08:50 AM
 
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New Hartford is the area for restaurants, shopping, proximity to the Thruway...taxes may be a drawback but there is a wide variety of housing in New Hartford, Clinton and Whitesboro areas.
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Old 02-06-2007, 07:51 AM
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Now tht the Oneida's have built their resort there is quite a bit to do in the Verona area outside of Rome.
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Old 02-06-2007, 11:12 AM
 
Location: Sierra Foothills, formerly upstate NY
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Hi All,

My family and I are considering a move to Rome/Utica neighborhood based on a job offer I have. We currently live in NYC but I am seriously considering the job offer. I was wondering if any one had any thoughts on good residential neighborhoods that we could look at. Ideally, we would like to be close to areas where there is access to good restaurants and any other cultural activities((theater, arts, things like that would be great).

I appreciate your thoughts regarding this. Thanks.

John
I am originally from Utica. Moved away 5 years ago for many reasons. Now that I've been away, I can really see the pros and cons of the area. And these are subjective and my personal opinion.

Utica has a great family life atmosphere. Family still seems to be an important component of life. You don't have a ton of the franchise restaurants and all the great mom and pop (mostly Italian) places still exist. However a lot is popping up in New Hartford, but the growth is needed. Life is slower there and would love to have it again versus this rat race in California. Growing up in the Utica/Mohawk Valley was the best I could have ever asked for. For raising a family without spending millions, it's a really great spot. The school systems are pretty good. The bordering towns and villages are great. You will find some are better than others, but all are unique. The rivers, the Adirondaks, the lakes, nice big green lawns.... I miss. Lots of outdoorsy things to do and live a fairly stress free life. And you get to shovel lots of snow. If you can make a decent wage there, it's a great place.

Now for what I see as the negative. For one, politics. The city looks like a bombed out war zone and the City of Utica seems to do nothing to promote growth and keep the young people there who will add to and make the city bloom. Recent growth in New Hartford and Verona with the Turning Stone has made the area turn around for the good quite a bit in the past few years, but as for Utica itself, I feel the political structure there is run poorly. Jobs aren't that plentiful, unless you want to work at one of the Walmart stores or distribution center. And culture, I didn't get much culture there personally. It was the same thing all the time. I guess when I was 25, I decided I needed more of life and Utica couldn't offer it to me.

Coming from NYC, you might be a little bored in Utica. It's not a theatrical mecca by any means. There isn't alot going on. The night life is OK, when you are 21 and want to get drunk every weekend. Not much for socializing from what I saw.

Travel up there. Spend some time there before you move. We are just opinions and experiences. Only you and your family will be the ones to really know if it's the place you want to relocate to and have a good life in.

Best of luck and keep us posted.
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Old 02-06-2007, 11:25 PM
 
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Thoughtful post, Corduroyboy.

A few questions....

When you say that Utica "looks like a bombed out war zone," do you mean there are literally a lot of crumbled buildings there and vacant lots, etc., or just a lot of abandoned but still use-able buildings? (I've never been there so my question is sincere.)

Also, what do you think caused this? Job loss causing population loss?

I've heard that both Utica and Rome had a lot of misguided "urban renewal" in the late Sixties and early Seventies that knocked down a lot of the historic areas, only to have supposed "re-development" either never happen, or not happen enough. Would you agree with this?

How would you compare Utica and Rome in terms of current livability and future prospects?

Do you see their blight turning worse? Do you think the crime they have is or will be getting worse?

Thanks!
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Old 02-07-2007, 09:44 AM
 
Location: Sierra Foothills, formerly upstate NY
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[quote=homeward bound;344083]Thoughtful post, Corduroyboy.

A few questions....

When you say that Utica "looks like a bombed out war zone," do you mean there are literally a lot of crumbled buildings there and vacant lots, etc., or just a lot of abandoned but still use-able buildings? (I've never been there so my question is sincere.) [quote]

There's no doubt I'm being a bit dramatic with my "bombed out war zone," but the buildings are severely dilapidated, no one is pumping money in them to refurbish them and make the city attactive. Seems like buildings burn to the ground often and then the City demolishes them and replaces them with nothing. Vacant lots are sprouting up all over. Utica is not a pretty city. Very gray and dull. And yes, a lot of abandoned buildings that from what my relatives tell me were once grand. Places that once thrived with life are now empty dying shells. (PS, my family all still lives there. My uncle and I are the only ones who got out!!)

[quote]Also, what do you think caused this? Job loss causing population loss? [quote]

Major businesses left in the 80s and 90s. GE - gone, Chicage Pneumatic - gone. The textile factories, Dunlap, and others all left and went south or out of the country. Many of places my grandparents would talk about are all gone. Utica has had some bad economic times in the past 20 years. Plus people just don't want to live there when there are no high paying jobs. I think a few years ago Utica was listed as one of the highest places for the exodus of people in the country. Other places have more to offer. More life, more opportunities, more sunshine and warmer weather.

[quote]I've heard that both Utica and Rome had a lot of misguided "urban renewal" in the late Sixties and early Seventies that knocked down a lot of the historic areas, only to have supposed "re-development" either never happen, or not happen enough. Would you agree with this?[quote]

Once again, politics. Everyone wants the Utica/Rome area to turn around and grow. But with growth comes growing pains. Just like in the New Hartford area where the Consumer Square went up. A great thing to happen to the area, but of course, everyone ******* about it. Too much traffic, too much development. Go to downtown Utica, there is no development. The same buildings are there that were there 100 years ago. Sure there are spots where renewal and development is happening, but not enough to make a positive impact on the area. Utica is a small city and will stay that way. People there do not seem to like change. The politicians do not know how to bring money in and manage it.

[quote]How would you compare Utica and Rome in terms of current livability and future prospects?[quote]

Personally I miss the place. It's where I grew up, it's made me who I am. All of my family is there. I'm 3000 miles from them, but could I ever move back to Utica, heck no. It doesn't suit what I want in life, but it has some incredible things there that you cannot get anywhere else in the country. Like I said earlier, if you can make a decent wage and life a nice life, it's a great place. You will have to give up things larger cities offer, but you have to give up things to get things obviously. I feel the hope there is growing. Things are starting to happen and have happened moreso in the past 5 years. But it still has its problems.

[quote]Do you see their blight turning worse? Do you think the crime they have is or will be getting worse?[quote]

It's a crap shoot. I read the Uticaod.com everyday. Wake up to it daily, and see the crime has been quite high and that there is barely anything to talk about there. Just not a lot going on. And with that comes negative actions.

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Anytime!! Always glad to discuss the place I still call "home."
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