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Old 09-14-2007, 03:22 PM
Location: North of the Cow Pasture and South of the Wind Turbines
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I will see if I get a bite and post it...

Also haven't driven through there in a while are there any of those green "Clean Energy" signs around town like there is on almost every house in Stamford and Roxbury?

This a good link originally from Save Upstate New York- it is tough to form the "grass root effort" but doable you do have support in this area...

Bovina Industrial Wind Energy Project -What to do if it is coming to your town (http://www.allianceforbovina.org/html/whattodo.html - broken link)

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Old 09-19-2007, 08:59 AM
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A quick update on the turbine scheme-though not Stamford.

This link is to a quick write up regarding promises of local jobs and using local labor to build. Now, UPC (the developer) without a blink of the eye-uncovers their plans all along. Bring in outside labor-NO LOCAL JOBS.

This is not the first time this has happened, but pro-winds folks don't believe that the companies lie. They chant the local labor as one of the many mantras of clean, green, honest, good development.

UPC Wind reneges on local jobs
www.windaction.org | UPC Wind reneges on local jobs

The rope we give the developers, the more they hang themselves as the real truths come out. So sad that certain towns are the sacrafice for the rest of us to learn from and prepare to fight against.
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Old 09-20-2007, 08:39 AM
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clean doesn't always mean green. industrial wind power plants are just that, industrial power plants.
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Old 09-26-2007, 02:35 PM
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glad that you provided the roxbury/stamford windfarm maps. I am thinking of distant views, which is why I was originally looking to purchase a home in Stamford. in case people do not think that this will negatively impact property values and resell - think again. planning to sell your home and retire elsewhere - hope you have a good pension because you are not likely to get much appreciation in your home and will instead likely lose significant value!! the value of property in these and neighboring towns is based on the beauty and quaintness of the towns and environment - I chose not to pay to look at distant wind turbines!! very very unfortunate.

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Old 09-26-2007, 02:42 PM
Location: North of the Cow Pasture and South of the Wind Turbines
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There is hope yet for Stamford and Roxbury the deal appears to have many many holes as was expected. A group of concerned citizens are putting up a real fight. But the wind developer's are never concerned they will just keep spreading money around and propaganda until they win. And if they don't then look for them to come to a small Upstate town near you...

And the wind map was for the proposed 34 turbine installation in Stamford/Roxbury, Bovina has instituted a ban on commercial wind development. It appears that Invenergy only secured leases and easements for 9 of the 34 turbines proposed. However that didn't stop them from putting everyones name on the application to the town saying they had all leases and easements in place which they did not.

Western Catskill Preservation Alliance » September 17th Press Release
"Despite overwhelming opposition to the Industrial Wind Turbines Project, Invenergy, the Towns of Roxbury and Stamford and now Delaware County continue to frighten and annoy property owners by aggressively pressing forward with a very costly and time consuming application process. The Western Catskill Preservation Alliance (WCPA) has spoken with many of the land owners listed in Invenergy’s application (Tables 1b, 2 and 4) and has learned that the majority are opposed to the project and do not plan to sign leases or grant setback waivers. “Invenergy has listed people’s names and address information that have absolutely no interest in this project.”"

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Old 12-04-2007, 06:06 PM
Location: North of the Cow Pasture and South of the Wind Turbines
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Default Some good news from the front in Stamford and Roxbury.

Some good news from the front in Stamford and Roxbury.

Western Catskill Preservation Alliance

"Our fight against Invenergy and the Roxbury Planning board continues. We are continuing to work with the Roxbury Planning Board and the Stamford Town Board, to challenge the application. Our primary argument at this stage of the process is that the application is flawed given that most of the names listed in the application are opposed to the project. This includes turbines being placed on properties whose owners are opposed to the project and adjacent landowners who will not agree to setback variances/waivers (noise setback, turbine to property line setback, and/or turbine to a home setback)."
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Old 01-31-2008, 04:50 PM
Location: North of the Cow Pasture and South of the Wind Turbines
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Been a while news has been slow - as has been the legal battle.

However two news articles worth noting if you are following the battle.

Western Catskill Preservation Alliance
For those new to our distribution list, the Article 78 lawsuit challenges Stamford’s wind turbine ordinance. The basis for the lawsuit which was filed by the WCPA, along with many landowners, in New York Supreme Court in Chenago County, argues that the process in which the town developed the ordinance was improper and therefore should be overturned.

www.windaction.org | Audubon Society questions data on birds, wind

The Delaware-Otsego Audubon Society is questioning the methods used by Invenergy LLC to conduct bird surveys at the proposed Moresville wind-farm site in Roxbury and Stamford. Invenergy officials say the studies were done correctly. The Audubon Society issued a letter in November expressing support for wind power as an alternative to fossil-fueled and nuclear energy, but added that the 2005 surveys of birds done at the project site are flawed. "Moresville has taken some serious shortcuts in their avian studies," Andy Mason, DOAS conservation chairman, said in a media release. "They carried out radar studies of nocturnal bird migration, but the radar location was 2-1/2 miles away and 1,000 feet lower than the ridge where the wind turbines would be located."

Thanks! they speak for themselves...
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Old 03-26-2008, 06:08 PM
Location: North of the Cow Pasture and South of the Wind Turbines
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Default Meredith passes law banning turbines

Well draw a circle and hope for the best...

As we circle the wagons it is yet another notch in keeping Delaware County wind free...

www.windaction.org | Meredith passes law banning turbines

Many congratulations to the people of Meredith New York and the strong fight they fought to keep the Catskill mountains as pure as it can be for as long as we desire to live here and have a choice.

"Applause filled the room Tuesday night after a vote by the Meredith Town Board to adopt a local law banning industrial wind turbines. About 50 people were at the Delaware County Office Building boardroom for a public hearing on the proposed law, but the comments were generally in favor of the ordinance. Meredith residents went to the polls in November and elected three board members who ran on a campaign promise of rescinding the town's wind-energy law and adopting a law banning industrial wind."

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Old 12-13-2010, 04:23 PM
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I am origionally from the Margaretville area and strongly considering buying a farm in Roxbury for my husband's and my retirement, moving back upstate. I was wondering if there is a site I can find to locate maps on this proposed Moorseville Turbine Field they are trying to force down the residents throats. That area between Grand Gorge and Stamford always was a high wind area, kind of a wind tunnel between the mountains. I am not at all surprised this site would be a choice spot for something such as this. It will however kill what little value these people have in teir homes and farms along that stretch. We have a similar problem here in PA with natural gas drilling in the Marcellus Shale areas.

Thank You in Advance
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Old 12-14-2010, 11:56 AM
Location: NY
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The wind turbine debate in Del. Co. has cooled considerably since this thread was active a few years ago. As I understand it, the policies and subsidy structures that made it a viable money-making operation for developers have changed. Without those policies and structures in place, wind development in the region is not a money-making proposition.
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