crime in cities in upstate new york (Buffalo, Rochester: house, quality of life)

[oktaren]

Originally Posted by Dr Funky

MOST

As in the suburbs and the towns, because the inner city areas have EXTREMELY high crime rates that rival the worst in the country

ive been downtown buffalo, it isn't that bad. there are bad areas, but i would say pittsburgh has much worse.

[djmikeyfx]

Originally Posted by RocCityQt

I won't lie the violent crimes have increased. I live in the "ghetto" and I seen things happen more frequently than average. But think about this Jobs are leaving and along with it people's sanity people have nothing to look forward to.
In New York City the crime is not that bad why because there are things to do to keep you occupied. only the people living in poverty without enough money to get to another part of the city the majority of them commit crimes which is another example why crime is so high here the poverty level is increasing.

I used to live on N. Goodman near Garson/Webster and I'll tell ya, that neighborhood is ****ed up... I lived there for about a year and never a dull moment in front of the 18hr store, Murders and Drugs; Then ya got the crack heads comin up to ya and **** at night (or day); plenty of times I was out front at 1am or something and crack heads always asking for this and that, hell they knew me by name cuz they'd come and ask me so much crap -- dude always wanted to wash my damn car for some reason.... I didnt give them anything though but still -- cant live in a neighborhood in peace - Where in the ghetto are you livin at?

[mikegerard]

Rochester rates are high. Around 60 murders/200,000.
Monroe county (includes Rochester). Around 65 murders/1,000,000.
Monroe county -Rochester. Around 5/800,000

So the rates are high in Rochester. But most people who say they are from Rochester do not really live in Rochester. If you want to avoid crime around here it's pretty easy to look at the numbers and figure out where you want to live.

Also, here's a number for comparison.
South Central LA in late 80's. Around 1100 murders/1,000,000. About 20 times higher.

[chrisruns2far]

Hello

I found some recent city crime rankings from 2006 at City Crime Rankings by Population Group and please notice that no NY cities are in the bottom-25. Among ofter items, this site includes data on both Metro Areas and Individual Cities for best and worst top-25. I think the crime in Upstate, while bad in certain pockets like any city, is not as bad or as commonplace as many are led to believe. Common sense, lifestyle and awarness will keep you out of harms way 99.9% of the time. We all are at more risk of getting in a car accident than being a crime victim. You can order a copy of recent reports online for just a few dollars for info and detail with complete rankings. In years past, with the exception of Buffalo and Rochester (improving) for one or two years, all upstate NY cities are at or below (many far below) the national crime average.

[VA Yankee]

Don't feel bad ya'll I live outside Richmond Va and that city makes the top ten every time. But even here most of the problems are occuring in the less than desirable areas. Unlike other posts which feel it's tied to the unemployment and young people leaving that is not our issue. Unemployment is at or below 4% and people are moving in. Richmonds problem is there is no Middle Class because they all moved to the surrounding counties.

Until the city can clean up it's act, improve it's schools and attract a middle class it's problems will continue.

[BuffaloTransplant]

Garmin, you have it right. In Buffalo, it was the drugs in the 80s/90s that created the worst years of deaths. Last year was high and just recently the News published the stats that murders were down quite a bit this year from last. However, you cannot convince people to look up a statistic if they are sure that they are correct. You also cannot convince people to turn in the people they know are doing the killing if they don't want to. This is a major problem in this area.

[BuffaloTransplant]

FYI: What is referred to as "downtown Buffalo" is the business district. The areas of high crime are not in downtown. They are in the low income areas beyond the city business district per se and now in the better areas of the city ( if you are going to rob someone, why do it in a poor area, just go to a better area for better gain, huh?). I feel safer going into "downtown" than driving through poor areas that start at its fringe and go out for about 2 miles....

[tallylady46]

Originally Posted by chrisruns2far

Hello

I found some recent city crime rankings from 2006 at City Crime Rankings by Population Group and please notice that no NY cities are in the bottom-25. Among ofter items, this site includes data on both Metro Areas and Individual Cities for best and worst top-25. I think the crime in Upstate, while bad in certain pockets like any city, is not as bad or as commonplace as many are led to believe. Common sense, lifestyle and awarness will keep you out of harms way 99.9% of the time. We all are at more risk of getting in a car accident than being a crime victim. You can order a copy of recent reports online for just a few dollars for info and detail with complete rankings. In years past, with the exception of Buffalo and Rochester (improving) for one or two years, all upstate NY cities are at or below (many far below) the national crime average.

Thanks for the list! If you notice, many NY cities made it on the "Safest" side on several listings. What's up with NJ though?

[Dr Funky]

Originally Posted by oktaren

ive been downtown buffalo, it isn't that bad. there are bad areas, but i would say pittsburgh has much worse.

downtown?

Im talking about the East side.

And from Ive heard West Rochester and parts of East Rochester.

My neighbor is from Rochester and 3 of his friends were murdered out there, one of his friends had his head blown off right next to him. He had brain matter on his face.

[ckhthankgod]

Here's some good information here:United States cities by crime rate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

United States cities by crime rate (100,000 - 250,000 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia)

United States cities by crime rate (60,000-100,000) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

United States cities by crime rate (40,000 - 60,000) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

and another place to check too:Bureau of Justice Statistics Crime & Justice Data Online
Just enter in nY and look at various agencies.