Newlyweds from NJ need info on NY (New York, Buffalo: apartment complexes, for rent)

[jisforjenn]

Hi all. My husband and I are looking for a good, affordable(haha) town to buy our first house in. We pay 1140 a month now for a 1 bedroom apartment. It's terrible. Our families live in central New Jersey and we don't want to be more than 2 hours away from them. We plan on starting a family, and would like a town with good schools. I also like a good downtown area. We are looking specifically in orange county, and have found a few towns in our price range, and are visiting this weekend, but we would like to know about any town suggestions from any of you. Thanks!

[hjlacey]

I live in Monroe, The school is rated one of the best in the state, although you do pay for it in school taxes. Warwick is also nice as is Woodbury.

[headed4nc]

Originally Posted by jisforjenn

Hi all. My husband and I are looking for a good, affordable(haha) town to buy our first house in. We pay 1140 a month now for a 1 bedroom apartment. It's terrible. Our families live in central New Jersey and we don't want to be more than 2 hours away from them. We plan on starting a family, and would like a town with good schools. I also like a good downtown area. We are looking specifically in orange county, and have found a few towns in our price range, and are visiting this weekend, but we would like to know about any town suggestions from any of you. Thanks!

Try Washingtonville, maybe Cornwall, Warwick. Monroe has always been expensive.
If you want to go farther look into Marlboro, Rock Tavern, Walden, Wallkill, Montgomery, Pine Bush.

Stay out of Middletown and Newburgh, that includes, New Windsor.

[winnie]

Yes, definately go for Orange. Your pocket book will thank you compared to Suffern area -HOLY COW

Ditto to headed4nc.

Goshen is nice too and if you plan to rent they have a couple reasonable apartment complexes there. As does Montgomery.

At all costs, stay away from Newburgh. Don't be fooled by the cheap rents up there and access to the city. Not worth it at all! By far it is one of the most disgusting cities in NYS.

[lfsr1544]

Originally Posted by winnie

Yes, definately go for Orange. Your pocket book will thank you compared to Suffern area -HOLY COW

Ditto to headed4nc.

Goshen is nice too and if you plan to rent they have a couple reasonable apartment complexes there. As does Montgomery.

At all costs, stay away from Newburgh. Don't be fooled by the cheap rents up there and access to the city. Not worth it at all! By far it is one of the most disgusting cities in NYS.

yes, definitely listen to winnie - she's pretty good about this stuff
this is the kind of person that would have told you 10-15 years ago.. "Brooklyn, yuk...who in their right mind would buy there with all those "undesirables"---river property has a tremendeous value. This is something not every town and city can offer. Goshen she says... what's in Goshen that's even interesting. Maybe Newburgh has it's share of issues but the potential is there for growth....what "movement" can possibly shake up Goshen?

There are absolutely beautiful areas in Newburgh... Nothing like it in the area. There are Million dollar homes just like there are "shells" of homes.

You need to be take everything into consideration when relocating somewhere. But the truth is, today, very few people stay put in the same home, and in the same community all their lives. Those days are way gone. Partly due to the same reason why people don't end up working for the same company for 20-30 years.

[winnie]

Can you afford river front in Newburgh???? Can you even afford a single blessed acre of riverfront property in Newburgh to put your MINIMUM 5000 square foot home on?????? Or how about a 199K house on Broadway that has been gutted and stripped of all hardware??

How about that NFA school district! Great place to send the kids!

Goshen is a nice community. It is established with low crime and low congestion. Cornwall is nice. Monroe is nice. I would buy in Brooklyn before I ever considered buying in most areas of Newburgh. Oh, how about the Foundry condoes??? Wow! Spend 300K to live around animals! Or go to New Windosor to those box condoes and spend 340K to live like a sardine.

I remember Newburgh from the 80's dear sir. Back then I could go shopping and go to the hotdog stand right up from the river and not see a buch of undesireables roaming the neighborhood. I remember that place before there was a Walmart, before Adams came there, before the Crystal Run Galleria came to Middletown. I don't need your seal of approval. I have known the area since 1982.

Rebuilding Newburgh is like putting a pig in a pretty dress. At the end of the day you still have a pig. Let the rich have their waterfront property and Baumville. The regular people can have the rest of the slum.

Goshen has a nice apartment complex. Montgomery too. Where are the "nice" apartments in Newburgh???


BTW - to the OP, there are also nice apartments/townhouses for rent in Cornwall.

[lfsr1544]

Originally Posted by winnie

Can you afford river front in Newburgh???? Can you even afford a single blessed acre of riverfront property in Newburgh to put your MINIMUM 5000 square foot home on?????? Or how about a 199K house on Broadway that has been gutted and stripped of all hardware??

How about that NFA school district! Great place to send the kids!

Goshen is a nice community. It is established with low crime and low congestion. Cornwall is nice. Monroe is nice. I would buy in Brooklyn before I ever considered buying in most areas of Newburgh. Oh, how about the Foundry condoes??? Wow! Spend 300K to live around animals! Or go to New Windosor to those box condoes and spend 340K to live like a sardine.

I remember Newburgh from the 80's dear sir. Back then I could go shopping and go to the hotdog stand right up from the river and not see a buch of undesireables roaming the neighborhood. I remember that place before there was a Walmart, before Adams came there, before the Crystal Run Galleria came to Middletown. I don't need your seal of approval. I have known the area since 1982.

Rebuilding Newburgh is like putting a pig in a pretty dress. At the end of the day you still have a pig. Let the rich have their waterfront property and Baumville. The regular people can have the rest of the slum.

Goshen has a nice apartment complex. Montgomery too. Where are the "nice" apartments in Newburgh???


BTW - to the OP, there are also nice apartments/townhouses for rent in Cornwall.

yes - you can afford Newburgh river proximity property for about the same that you end up paying in a 'sterile environment' with nothing around you--places with some culture and some history. The 'pigs' as you call them are an unfortunate byproduct of our indifference to other people's hardship. Nevertheless, that surrounding property is already changing. It's not everywhere but certainly in given areas and it will take time. Not everyone is looking for a 5,000sq ft home on -- these guys are just starting to get a handle on realty properties, so what is it that you're talking about.

And Newburgh, nice in the 80s. It's a known fact that Newburgh's decline started in the 60s and peeked in the 90s.... Own in Brooklyn?.. shows how naive you are... you go ahead and pay $800K for a shell of a home in Bed Stuy -- we'll see how long you make it!

[winnie]

I did not refer to the people there as pigs. That was a reference to the enitre city.. It is dirty and rundown. And I know several Orange county/town of Newburgh cops that will say the same things about the crime in the city. Way to high.

And I DO know of landowners in the Bronx and Brooklyn. They are well off. When they do sell their properties I am sure they will be making some serious $$. I am no country bumpkin - been around NYC, family there, dad grew up in the Bronx and I have been going there since I was a little one.

Most riverfront properties in Newburgh have a MANDATORY MINIMUM house size of 5000 sq ft. It is written right in the deed. It is the town's way of discriminating against the commonfolk from owning river front land. So a 5000 sq ft house on an acre? Well I hope you have your 800K to get your views of the magnificently polluted Hudson River...enjoy.

Anyone from the area will tell you that Cornwall, Goshen, Montgomery, Wallkill are much more desireable areas than Newburgh.
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Newburgh, New York has a property crime rate of 4127.6 incidents per 100,000 people. This compares with an average rate of 2397.2 in New York and an average rate of 4296 incidents per 100,000 nationally. Lower numbers are better, indicating that fewer crimes happen per person in the population.

Newburgh, New York has a violent crime rate of 1272 incidents per 100,000 people. This compares with a rate of 587 in New York and a rate of 596 nationally. Lower numbers are better, indicating that fewer crimes happen per person in the population.

Newburgh, New York is in the 99% percentile rank in the state for Violent Crime. It is in the 97% percentile rank nationally. Lower numbers are better. In this case, 99% of cities in New York have crime rates equal to or lower than Newburgh, or said another way, 1% of cities in New York have crime rates higher than Newburgh.

Furthermore, only Buffalo is ranked as a higher crime city in NY. Then follows Albany and Poughkeepsee. From there NYC is ranked 6 cities below (safer).

Nuff said.

[dialuvsjeeps]

My fiance just moved up here from downstate, I visited down there alot. It is very expensive. Try searching the adirondack region. It is not that far from jersey. All summer we are flooded with people from jersey. There is NO better place to raise you children. Small schools, low crime, the people up here are just different. I couldn't stand visiting down there on weekends. My fiance is amazed at just the difference in people alone at the playground with the kids. Take the time for weekend trips before you buy. I'm in Lake Luzerne. Check it out.