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Unread 07-17-2011, 01:41 PM
 
Location: Wood framed structure
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Comparatively speaking, New York State is in really bad shape. So, the local officials may not be able to do much. The problem stems from high taxes on businesses.

"New York ranks as the second-worst state in which to do business, a survey of 550 CEOs released Thursday by Chief Executive magazine shows."-http://www.rbj.net/article.asp?aID=187482

Was it years of Mario Cuomo way back in time? Who knows, the state's been in sad shape for decades. That is why maybe small areas can induce change, bit by bit, piece by piece.
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Unread 07-17-2011, 09:27 PM
 
Location: Wood framed structure
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I won't even waste my efforts on correcting you and your ignorant statement.
It just so happens that one can make a direct correlation between City Council denying Mayor Ryan, a hard working and intelligent person, the ability to put up a sign pointing to gross waste of resources on an utterly immoral and barbaric occupation and invasion, to propaganda forces in Nazi Germany that disallowed any information denouncing Nazi policy, be it invasion, extermination or other. That is NOT to say that America or Binghamton are similar to Nazi Germany, it is a comparison between the insensitivity of city council and their ignorance of the issues concerning Mayor Ryan's intelligent community oriented-nation oriented idea stated above to Nazi Germany propaganda -ists denouncing and disallowing information to be posted and displayed in public. Mayor Ryan and others took time to work out and even got national attention for this effort. It is censorship by the way, but what country that has amassed such a massive scale destruction and mass murder of another sovereign country would want to admit to the ill design of the entire operation, and its massive usage and waste of national revenue. The sign Mayor Ryan proposed and was about to put up, would have probably contribute to an increase in cardiac arrests amongst hard working tax payers.

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HERE'S A PLAN.......LEAVE IMMEDIATELY..WE'D HATE TO SEE YOU SUFFER HERE ANY LONGER.
I don't need to go, I was never there. It was all a dream.

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Unread 07-18-2011, 06:18 AM
 
Location: Syracuse
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Comparatively speaking, New York State is in really bad shape. So, the local officials may not be able to do much. The problem stems from high taxes on businesses.

"New York ranks as the second-worst state in which to do business, a survey of 550 CEOs released Thursday by Chief Executive magazine shows."-http://www.rbj.net/article.asp?aID=187482

Was it years of Mario Cuomo way back in time? Who knows, the state's been in sad shape for decades. That is why maybe small areas can induce change, bit by bit, piece by piece.
A lot of states are in trouble or are broke, if not most of them. I agree that the tax situation with businesses is the biggest issue for the state.
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Unread 07-18-2011, 12:21 PM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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The city itself is a basket case. ........

Binghamton is a crackpot city, full of unsightly intellectually restricted individuals, and worse. It is a living nightmare and a mini hell on earth. That is only my assessment, but seeing how much of a deficit that city has in attracting businesses and other productive things, may support my assessment, to one extent or another. The university is all that city has, and its isolated, stuck behind a bunch of trees on some highway. This feature makes for a very segregated landscape, not good for education or community, but given the quality of the population of Binghamton proper, its perhaps a good thing. Its too dangerous.

I recommend staying away, and if you are stuck there, dig a hole and bury yourself. Vestal on the other hand offers nothing beyond chain stores and parking lots, and perhaps suburban housing. Why they stuck these universities in upstate New York in sort of out of the city places, accessible by cars only, is beyond me. That campus is horrible, an uncharacteristic asylum posing as a place of higher education.
I am just curious on what grounds you are basing these opinions on? Are you a former resident? How long did you actually live there? Did you actually work in the area, deal with the people daily? and by people I mean ALL the people - including university students, staff and faculty?

You paint a broad stroke that simply isn't applicable to the area. Your complaints can easily be applied to any other upstate NY region - areas right near Utica, Rome and Buffalo where the population REALLY is extremely provincial and politically apathetic in general. I find your opinions on the area to be just downright disgusting and based on pure conjecture and anecdotes.

By and large, the reason universities are placed in local regions is precisely to boost the local economy and provide students a suburban/rural setting for their studies. Cornell University is located in Ithaca, which has a very tiny population, also considered a rural town. If you think about it, with the exception of Albany, Syracuse, Buffalo, Rochester - practically every college town in NY State is in a RURAL setting. And there are universities all over Albany (Union College, SUNY Albany) and Rochester (RIT, U of Rochester) so you need to consider that fact as well.
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Unread 07-18-2011, 12:47 PM
 
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"That campus is horrible, an uncharacteristic asylum posing as a place of higher education". Okay, so the building and its surroundings leave a lot to be desired. I'm clear on that. But how's the actual educational that's being taught there? Is that the pits too?
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Unread 07-18-2011, 10:41 PM
 
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My flout mainly concerns the built environment of the university. But regarding statements by LegalDiva, I was not pointing out the fact of rural areas and universities, I was making the point that the university is cut off from the city of Binghamton, making it something quite different from Ithica and Cornell. The Binghamton University is built on plans that were, architectural speaking, popular in post (WWII) war America. Many universities were build in this fashion after the war, insular, and cut off from cities, the opposite of Cornell. I still think it is an " uncharacteristic asylum", and would never send anyone there or recommend them to go there. Skin heads are very prevalent on the campus and it is unsafe.
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Unread 07-18-2011, 11:48 PM
 
Location: Syracuse
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SUNY-Binghamton is unsafe? I know the area has had an "interesting" history in terms of hate groups, but the school is actually pretty good academically.

Also, parts of the Cornell campus is outside of the Ithaca city limits, if I'm not mistaken.
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Unread 07-19-2011, 06:27 AM
 
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I would agree that the old asylum on the east side of Binghamton looked more like a university than the university campus did when I went there.
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Unread 07-19-2011, 10:29 AM
 
Location: Maryland outside DC
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SUNY-Binghamton is unsafe? I know the area has had an "interesting" history in terms of hate groups, but the school is actually pretty good academically.

Also, parts of the Cornell campus is outside of the Ithaca city limits, if I'm not mistaken.
Don't forget, Ithaca College is outside the Ithaca City limits.
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Unread 07-19-2011, 12:56 PM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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My flout mainly concerns the built environment of the university. But regarding statements by LegalDiva, I was not pointing out the fact of rural areas and universities, I was making the point that the university is cut off from the city of Binghamton, making it something quite different from Ithica and Cornell. The Binghamton University is built on plans that were, architectural speaking, popular in post (WWII) war America. Many universities were build in this fashion after the war, insular, and cut off from cities, the opposite of Cornell. I still think it is an " uncharacteristic asylum", and would never send anyone there or recommend them to go there. Skin heads are very prevalent on the campus and it is unsafe.
SKINHEADS?!?!! Where are you getting all these crazy ideas from!?!! I want to just slap you upside the head at your comments!!! I never saw skinheads in my time there!! Campus safety is very good, if you read all the student reviews about BU, campus safety is one of the top areas that receives little complaints. Most students complain about the awful food and crappy weather.. If you did see skinheads, I assure you they weren't SUNY Binghamton students, thats for sure!!!
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