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Old 08-17-2007, 10:32 PM
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can anyone tell me a little bit about binghamton? i'll be checking out the area next summer for a place to relocate. does anyone have a photo tour of binghamton??
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can anyone tell me a little bit about binghamton? i'll be checking out the area next summer for a place to relocate. does anyone have a photo tour of binghamton??
That would be me!

http://www.city-data.com/forum/new-y...hoto-tour.html

I live an hour south of Binghamton so I'm probably not the best resource to contact about day-to-day living in that city. Members Hartwick, Tioga, and Lauri_25_NY are better resources to send a direct message to for specific inquiries.

As a first-time tourist to the town during my photo tour a few months ago I must say I was neither impressed nor turned off by the city. It kind of left me with a "neutral" taste in my mouth. It seemed to be faring more poorly than my native Scranton, PA but better than its sister city of Elmira, NY. The downtown was very clean and had a lot of great historic architecture, but it was a literal ghost-town with very few people on the streets other than one or two office workers grabbing lunch or the occasional vagrant. One would expect a college town like Binghamton, which is home to both Broome County Community College and Binghamton University, to have more of a younger intellecutal vibe to its downtown, much like Ithaca, NY or even what Scranton, PA is attempting to do, but that didn't appear to be the case.

Most vehicles on the roadways in the city were late-model ones, but they tended to be more middle-class in nature (Accords, Camrys, Foresters, Escapes, etc.) as opposed to the proliferation of luxury sedans and SUVs you see closer to NYC. People in Binghamton whine about the poor economy there, but if most people there can afford the payments on a low-$20k brand new vehicle, then the jobs must pay well enough to sustain a family (or they're all in debt up to their eyeballs).

The city's population has been declining for a number of decades, and that is evident with urban blight in some areas. I've heard about the supposed "high crime" in Binghamton, but I didn't see any vestiges of this while roaming through just about every city neighborhood.

If the city wants to make a comeback it should consider better integration of the college students into the downtown area. There is no current easy pedestrian access linking Binghamton University to the downtown area; that needs to be addressed. Downtown Binghamton also needs to encourage niche retailers, night clubs, and ethnic restaurants to locate in its downtown, much like Ithaca or Scranton. Efforts should also be made to transform downtown from a 9-5 city to a 24/7 city through the construction of lofts, studios, and condos geared towards young professionals, artists, retirees, college students, and empty-nesters.
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I agree. Great place but needs work.
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wow wilkesbarre i enjoyed your photo tour! thanks a lot. i love you guys. i'll say it again, people in the ne are very friendly. i can't wait to move.
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can anyone tell me a little bit about binghamton? i'll be checking out the area next summer for a place to relocate. does anyone have a photo tour of binghamton??
Binghamton resembles Hiroshima after the big day.... not much left around there.....
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i guess it depends on what you're looking for......i'm looking for beautiful old architecture, interesting places to walk and explore either in my immediate town or within a fairly short drive, friendly people and a few good restaurants. oh and some tourist traffic as i hope to open an art studio/gallery.
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I have lived in Binghamton for 30 years. It is a pit.There is no other way to describe it. The city is crumbling. Nobody could agree on candidates for mayor and tbey squeezed in some so-called progressive candidate who is nailing the coffin shut. The economy could not be worse. The downtown is literally crumbling. It is a city that needs to be torn down and started again, You can buy a home on an acre with 5 bedrooms and 3 baths for under 100, 000. Problem is that next week it will fetch you only 80. Broome County is a loser place and anyone who can has left. There is no tax base. The place is being taken over by the disenfranchised. Disenfranchised for all kinds of reasons but fringe .
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I have lived in Binghamton for 30 years. It is a pit.There is no other way to describe it. The city is crumbling. Nobody could agree on candidates for mayor and tbey squeezed in some so-called progressive candidate who is nailing the coffin shut. The economy could not be worse. The downtown is literally crumbling. It is a city that needs to be torn down and started again, You can buy a home on an acre with 5 bedrooms and 3 baths for under 100, 000. Problem is that next week it will fetch you only 80. Broome County is a loser place and anyone who can has left. There is no tax base. The place is being taken over by the disenfranchised. Disenfranchised for all kinds of reasons but fringe .
Binghamton will have its day to prosper. As a first-time tourist to the city during my photo tour, it was headed on the right path to recovery, in my opinion. The city reminded me a lot what Scranton used to be in the 1990s---just hitting rock bottom and initializing efforts to pull itself back onto its feet. Downtown Binghamton was an empty ghost-town, but the historic architecture, especially along Court Street, was well-preserved, which will serve it well once the city manages to attract new business ventures. Nothing attracts tourists to a city's downtown more than the feeling of "nostalgia" in terms of Victorian-era streetlamps and old brick facades with independent retailers along wide sidewalks (Binghamton had all of these, even though the buildings were largely-vacant).

I have two ideas that would serve as catalysts to revitalize the city:

1.) Better integrate the college students from Binghamton University and Broome County Community College into the downtown. This could be done through the following:

-Provide each incoming Freshman at both institutions with "Welcome to Binghamton" packets that will include menus from downtown restaurants and pizzerias, coupons for downtown retailers, and maps of how to get to downtown from the campuses, both of which are outside of downtown and not easily-accessible (which I'll discuss later). Scranton's downtown businesses do this for incoming freshmen at the University of Scranton, and it has proven to be wildly-popular in bolstering the downtown merchants and restauranteurs.

-Create better linkages between both campuses and the downtown. One thing I noticed about Binghamton is that it had a lot of legwork to do in order to make itself pedestrian and bicyclist-friendly. Both campuses are either a moderate bike ride or a long (yet doable) walk from downtown, but it's not something that would be desirable during inclement weather or during the winter. Scranton utilizes a trolley to ferry people around to different points of interest in its downtown during special events---perhaps Binghamton could also invest in two toll-free trolleys that would ferry students between the downtown and both campuses? This would also be a great way to better integrate both campuses with each other, as one could ride a free trolley from BU to downtown and then from downtown to BCCC, or vice-versa.

-Encourage each institution to establish some sort of satellite campus and/or classrooms in the downtown area. Students can utilize that free trolley service to get from their primary campuses to their downtown classes. In between classes, students could mingle with their peers over lunch at downtown restaurants and window-shop at new downtown boutiques featuring campus gear, used books, coffee houses, and other youth-oriented establishments. Wilkes-Barre, PA has linked both of its campuses (Wilkes and King's) by establish a joint college Barnes & Noble bookstore in its downtown that lures in students from both campuses. Perhaps Binghamton could bring a Borders or Barnes & Noble to its downtown that would be the primary retailer of college textbooks for BCCC and BU?

(Opinions to be Continued After Din Din....)
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2.) Reinvent the downtown as a mixed-use area that could sustain 24/7 liveability. This could be accomplished also in several ways:

-I noticed many vacant upper-stories of commercial buildings in the Downtown Binghamton area during my photo tour that could very easily be turned into living space. A successful transformation of a once lackluster 9-5 commercial downtown into a thriving 24/7 residential neighborhood should incorporate people from all socioeconomic backgrounds---from struggling single mothers who work downtown as janitors and want to live in a 2-bedroom rent-controlled apartment to young professionals who want to live in modern lofts with city skyline views. Here are a few examples of potential:


While Boscov's Department Store is something that should be retained to keep Downtown Binghamton vibrant, notice how that narrow immediately-adjacent building and the red building furthest to the left (with the blue awning) are sitting idle. If you were to refurbish that narrow building into having one stylish loft apartment per floor, you'd have four loft apartments located above some sort of new business venture (let's assume some small service-oriented establishment to meet the needs of the new downtown residents, like a barber shop or a locksmith). That building on the left could house a downtown market on the street-level to cater to the day-to-day grocery needs of downtown residents along with perhaps an artists' studio on the second floor (with those big glass windows to showcase their work), along with either low-income rent-controlled apartments or studio apartments on the upper floors (let's assume there's room for four units altogether). Just from these two buildings, we've gained a service-oriented business, a market, and eight residential units---four geared towards upper-middle-class young professionals and four geared towards the lower-middle-class. Let's assume the following:

Four lofts = 6 new residents (2 singles, 2 couples/roomies)
Four rent-controlled units = 12 new residents (4 families of 3)

Just from these two buildings alone the downtown will have gained 18 new residents who will shop at the new market (with the blue awning), get haircuts at the new barber shop next-door, and buy their school clothes or luggage at Boscov's.


Here's another example:


This image shows a part of Court Street that is in trouble. The Subway appears to be the only functioning business out of six distinct storefronts I can identify. The Subway should stay right where it is---the more spots for downtown residents to grab a quick bite to eat for lunch the merrier. Just to the left of the Subway (in the same building) is another empty storefront that might be used to house perhaps a Dairy Queen, Baskin Robbins, or some independent ice cream parlor with sidewalk seating that could be used to cap off an Italian sub on a hot summer day. The second floor of this building could perhaps house four standard apartments geared towards the middle-class (let's assume this building is as deep as it is wide). The third floor has unique windows that would make for some awesome lofts (let's assume four of these types of units as well).

Four apartments = 9 new residents (1 family of three, 2 couples, 2 singles)
Four lofts = 8 new residents (1 family of three, 2 couples, 1 single)

Just from this one building with the Subway we could potentially gain one new ice cream parlor (or similar business venture) and 17 new residents, which, when combined with the new residents near Boscov's, would bring our total thus far to 35 new downtown residents that would help to increase foot traffic (which would reduce crime) and help existing businesses to flourish while new business ventures are established to latch onto the growing residential population.

In this same photo, let's focus on that gorgeous building in the center of the photo which has two vacant storefronts and three upper-stories. Depending on the depth of this building, it would be a perfect location for that potential joint-college bookstore I mentioned. I could see Borders or Barnes & Noble combining those two empty storefronts and installing an escalator inside to build a two-story bookstore---perhaps with the ground-level featuring a Starbucks and the main retail area and the second-floor featuring the college textbooks and a campus gear store. The building's third floor with its large windows would make it perfect for some sort of professional/office usage. The top floor looks ideal for small, reasonably-priced apartments that would not be rent-controlled but could attract people from diverse backgrounds (let's assume up to 6 apartments depending on the depth of the building).

Six apartments = 11 new residents (1 Family of four, 2 couples, 3 singles)

Just from this center building we have gained 11 new residents, bringing our current downtown tally to 46. We've also gained a new campus bookstore, professional office, ice cream parlor, barber shop, and market.

Next in the photo we have that "Phil's" building, where whatever business that was once housed there now looks to be defunct. Let's once again combine those two smaller storefronts into one larger storefront that could house a decent-sized ethnic restaurant (perhaps Thai, Greek, or Indian). If the restaurant is unique enough, it could easily draw in suburbanites to sample its flavor---suburbanites who would then saunter up and down Court Street to patronize our other new businesses. The second-story doesn't look quite as large as the other structures, so let's assume we'll have room for two apartments up there.

Two apartments = 4 new residents (2 couples/roomies)

These four new residents brings our downtown tally to an even 50, and we've only done several buildings along Court Street thus far. Finally, let's examine the last building visible in the photo, which is partially-obscured by the white van. You can't make out what's on the first-floor from this image, but let's assume that judging by the well-kept condition of the building that it currently houses some sort of business. Let's keep that business intact and utilize the upper two floors for a nice condo on each floor (the second floor has a nice balcony).

Two condos = 4 new residents (1 Family of three, 1 single)

Just from two of my photos we now have a slew of new business ventures that will cater to the needs of the growing downtown population, which is now at 54 (which might be higher or lower depending on the ratio and size of families in comparison to single people and couples/roomies).


Where will all of these new residents, shoppers, etc. park, might you ask?


Well, while I normally don't suggest this, I'd say tear down these crumbling buildings along Court Street and replace them with a parking garage that would offer both monthly and daily spots. (This is assuming that this image is of a current demolition of these buildings anyways and not of a rehabilitation, in which case I'd retract these plans for another alternative). Monthly spots would be offered discounts for residents, some of whom might even opt to forgo owning a vehicle in favor of riding those new trolleys (or buses) around the city or meeting all of their basic needs along a revitalized Court Street.

These are just brushing the surface of the ideas I have for Binghamton. Feel free to let me know what you think!
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I moved from Binghamton to Lehigh Valley PA two years ago...
(after 20 + years of desperately trying to get out!)
I completely agree with the posting that described it as a pit..
that was probably generous!
many good souls live there, but it is a very sad place...economy has
plummeted for years and years...mostly everyone worth their salt has
left...in order to survive, unless you are a college student, which most
are from NYC and leave after their four years at SUNY. OR unless you
are lucky enough (I guess) to work for the government there...
If you are independently wealthy, and enjoy plenty of precipitation and
you don't need to work...it's a good place because you can buy a home
cheap! but please don't expect to make any type of money on a
real estate investment there...you probably will begin losing money the
day you sign the deed. Look in Scranton, PA ...much better city, and
the people are great!
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