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Sean® · 06-07-2012, 03:21 AM

Its not an editorial statement that I don't know any black people in Upstate but rather the 97-100% whiteness of most of the towns here.

Oneida is .80% black, Town of Manlius is .87% and Richfield Springs is .57%. Herkimer is fairly integrated for an Upstate town at 1.2%.

daydreamin71 · 06-07-2012, 04:32 AM

Living in the Corning area, I have met quite a number of people who are transplants to the area from all over the world (thank you Corning Inc!). It's been my experience that most will acknowledge that this may not be the most exciting area they have ever lived in, but that it is a wonderful area for raising a family and they are glad to be living here. Of course most of the transplants I know are married with children - I'm sure it makes a difference if you are younger and single.

ckhthankgod · 06-07-2012, 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Sean®

Its not an editorial statement that I don't know any black people in Upstate but rather the 97-100% whiteness of most of the towns here.

Oneida is .80% black, Town of Manlius is .87% and Richfield Springs is .57%. Herkimer is fairly integrated for an Upstate town at 1.2%.

According to this it is up a bit: US2010

Again, you must not know too many Black people up here, as many have come from the South within the last 50 years or less. Look at the cities and some of the suburbs for instance. My parents are from SC and Mississippi and if you were familiar with the Black community in Syracuse, many have relatively recent roots by way of Central FL, the Pee Dee region of SC, Southeastern Alabama, much of Georgia between Columbus and Savannah and others coming by way of other parts of the South. There are exceptions in terms of small towns/cities and that there have always been Black communities in Upstate NY, but many have relatively recent roots up here. An example of an area of Upstate NY that touches on a little bit of all of this are many of the small towns in Wayne, Orleans and Genesee counties where they have both long time Black residents and those that came from the South. Places like Lyons, Newark, Clyde, Sodus, Williamson, Albion, Medina, LeRoy, the Caledonia/Mumford area and a few others. This doesn't even get into immigrants/refugees of various backgrounds that are up here too.

Good point daydreamin71, as companies like Corning Inc. and the many universities and colleges attract people from outside of the state and country for employment or as students. So, I don't get where this everyone in Upstate NY is from here angle is coming from.

Small towns across the country have people that are largely from that area or state.

VintageSunlight · 06-07-2012, 08:52 AM

I know two people from my circle of friends that went to upstate NY universities and stayed in the CNY area upon graduating. Both are quite successful. One of them is a professor at SUNY Binghamton but lives outside of Ithaca. The other supports his family on one salary, and they have a f-ton of kids, a large house, and at least 2 cars. This is a guy from NJ who will never move back because he can't have that type of lifestyle there.

VA Yankee · 06-07-2012, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Sean®

Its not an editorial statement that I don't know any black people in Upstate but rather the 97-100% whiteness of most of the towns here.

Oneida is .80% black, Town of Manlius is .87% and Richfield Springs is .57%. Herkimer is fairly integrated for an Upstate town at 1.2%.

I wouldn't consider %1.2 to be integrated, that more like a loaf of white bread with a few raisons thrown in....

ckhthankgod · 06-07-2012, 12:12 PM

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I wouldn't consider %1.2 to be integrated, that more like a loaf of white bread with a few raisons thrown in....

According to this: 2010 Census Interactive Population Search
There are 345 Black folks(maybe around 400 if you count those of 2 races)out of 7743 people in Herkimer. So, it isn't too low or is enough to notice. A lot of that is probably due to Herkimer County Community College, which has a relatively high Black student population. College Navigator - Herkimer County Community College

VA Yankee · 06-07-2012, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by ckhthankgod

According to this: 2010 Census Interactive Population Search
There are 345 Black folks(maybe around 400 if you count those of 2 races)out of 7743 people in Herkimer. So, it isn't too low or is enough to notice. A lot of that is probably due to Herkimer County Community College, which has a relatively high Black student population. College Navigator - Herkimer County Community College

Herkimer town shows @9500 people w/@400 identified at African American, Herkimer County shows @62,300 total w/@700 African Americans. I still say it is a loaf of white bread with a few raisons...

.04% & .01% does not make an integrated community...

Sean® · 06-07-2012, 04:50 PM

I live in Madison County now which is far more integrated at 1.32%.

Most of the blacks that I see here live either in the projects over on Elm or the ghetto by the Byrne Dairy. Both areas are just disgusting areas. They were disgusting long before blacks moved in so it ain't them. Many were interviewed during the "race riot" last year by the Syracuse TV station. They spoke of how much better it is then Syracuse. That stunned me, for them to consider those areas better speaks volumes about Syracuse.

To the best of my knowledge, far from complete, the blacks are not a part of the crime problem here.

To be honest I knew something of the whites involved in the "race riot" and I was kinda hoping the blacks downtown would call in some hard, pipehitting bangers from Syracuse with AK's and wipe that area out.

ckhthankgod · 06-07-2012, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Sean®

I live in Madison County now which is far more integrated at 1.32%.

Most of the blacks that I see here live either in the projects over on Elm or the ghetto by the Byrne Dairy. Both areas are just disgusting areas. They were disgusting long before blacks moved in so it ain't them. Many were interviewed during the "race riot" last year by the Syracuse TV station. They spoke of how much better it is then Syracuse. That stunned me, for them to consider those areas better speaks volumes about Syracuse.

To the best of my knowledge, far from complete, the blacks are not a part of the crime problem here.

To be honest I knew something of the whites involved in the "race riot" and I was kinda hoping the blacks downtown would call in some hard, pipehitting bangers from Syracuse with AK's and wipe that area out.

What race riot?

ckhthankgod · 06-07-2012, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by VA Yankee

Herkimer town shows @9500 people w/@400 identified at African American, Herkimer County shows @62,300 total w/@700 African Americans. I still say it is a loaf of white bread with a few raisons...

.04% & .01% does not make an integrated community...