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Old 09-29-2006, 11:02 PM
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So?

Why should you care about what other people do with their money, or lack of it?

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I have to agree with you about LI'ers. I am so tired of people driving around in their big expensive cars, eating out frequently, having thier hair and nails done every week, and carrying $300 pocketbooks. Then they have the nerve to cry poverty. It's really sickening.
My husband and I choose not to live that way and it sure feels good to be debt free and to have money in the bank for our children's college education.

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Old 09-29-2006, 11:14 PM
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Normally I don't care how people spend their money. My complaint has to do with the materialistic attitude and the fact that people feel they need to have all these things. Then I have to hear them complain that they can't keep up.

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Old 09-30-2006, 01:26 AM
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People are like that in any area. Here in the Midwest there are plenty of people who will look down their nose at you if you don't drive a Hummer or a Lexus or wear the right clothes (or vote for the right candidates or belong to the right country club or live in the right housing addition or have the right titanium golf clubs or attend the right church, etc., etc.)

My personal opinion is those people are deluded and pathetic. In a world with this much poverty, there isn't much room for millionaires, marble bathrooms, three cars, vacation homes, etc.

But I guess I'm somewhat of a commie. I honestly think people who trot their poodles down the street sporting diamond studded dog collars are asking to be mugged. Not harmed, but relieved of some of their more flamboyant bourgeoisie trappings.

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Old 09-30-2006, 09:38 AM
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We thought we would make the move from upstae NY to NC. Wrong move . We have only been here for four months and want OUT!!
the poeple are mean and rude . the schools are strict and there is little or no laughter. the summers are so hot you want to die. The healthe insurance costs us $876 per month!!!!!! and my husband works for the state of NC. The cops hate NY's/ Most women here are form Long island and are heavy sedation to just live here since they can not afford to move back. I have been called a (liscene NY) f -New Yorker by a cop and atm teller. We live in Cary!!!
The southers really hate new yorkers. AND THE Snakes Oh the snakes are all over!!! The kids are rude and arrougant. No one is friendly NO ONE!! the only ones that are friedly are the southerns that take your money . just like BUSH!!! the neighborhood we live in is park village. Looks nice from the outside but BEWARE!!!! AND the cost of living here (if you are form upstatre) is outragous!
I hate it here. We are moveing back asap!
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I lived most of my life in NY and I wouldn't want to live near you.

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Old 09-30-2006, 03:01 PM
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Yeah, let us know where you are thinking of moving so I can cross it off my list.

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Old 10-02-2006, 12:46 AM
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Wink goingbackhome :)

You still here? Hey, everyone has really bad days, and need to vent. Stick around and post, it just might help what sounds like homesickness. I know the feeling. I moved to Virginia for 2 miserable years. Nothing felt right. And your right about southern attitudes. It seems many are still in the Civil War mentality. It's something we northeners seldom concern ourselves with. Now to me, 'that' was offensive.

Like or not, changes are coming their way. Ppl are being forced to relocate if they wish to continue working for the same company, or just plain to work. Accepting one another isn't one sided. By demanding 'their' customs be respected or else, will only create hostility on the other part. They have to understand, it isn't a picnic for us either.

For awhile, at IBM here in Endicott, we had the reverse situation. Southerners had to move north if they wished to remain employed with us. For many, the change was too much.... you know like, weather, customs, accents, life style, fashion, traffic, housing... nothing was familar. I felt very bad for those who couldn't ajust. Some moved back south, and lost their jobs. But apparently, it was worth it.

Drop me a note any time. I'm an easy listener. Take care, ok?

Hermette

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Old 10-02-2006, 01:34 AM
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Charlotte's been around since the Mid 1700's. It's had a rich history but for some reason or another the cty leaders over the years have virtually shuned that history. No wonder most percive Charlotte as a grey, boring banking city.

I didn't find Charlotte to be boring at all, now upstate Ny is boring.

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Old 10-02-2006, 09:40 AM
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I moved to the metropolitan Charlotte, NC area from Syracuse a little over two years ago. Initially, I was really enthusiastic about the move, but after two years of trying to adapt, I am aching to get back to Syracuse.

I have found the people generally (with some exceptions) to be polite but cold and a bit arrogant. I'm not sure if this is a southern thing or a big-city thing, though. Also, in their defense, they are wayyyyyy tired of northerners - particularly those from NYC - moving here, negatively critiquing everything about the southern way of life, and then by sheer force of numbers, trying to change the stuff they don't like. I can't really blame them for that.

The weather is absolutely atrocious in the summer...heat, humidity, and blisteringly direct rays from the sun the likes of which I've never seen. I get a headache within about five minutes of stepping outside, and that is not an exaggeration. The native NCers tell me that the way they handle it is just to stay inside during July and August. What kind of sense does THAT make? If I want to stay inside for two months, I'll move back to Syracuse and stay inside for January and February, like all NORMAL people do, and then spend the lovely months of July and August outside, enjoying the beautiful Central New York countryside.

Surprisingly, although Charlotte is a big-ish city, the cultural life here is not great, and definitely is not as vibrant as tiny little Syracuse's. Isn't that odd? Their only homegrown theater (other than children's theater) closed the year I arrived, to the chagrin of many in the community. Apparently, this was due in part to some kind of controversial play or plays that were staged the year before...not sure about all of this, as I came in on the tail end of it.

Charlotte is also rather coarse in character. There is a crass overemphasis on accruing wealth, and it colors much of the growth and "progress" here. Charlotte itself keeps gobbling up every unincorporated part of Mecklenburg County that it can, which means there is a notable lack of a community feel to the suburbs. It's mostly just new-money urban sprawl, and it ain't pretty. Think McMansions on steroids, with tiny, tiny lawns and no community center. Couple this with the fact that the developers are pushing local government to put a ban on the construction of new starter homes in Mecklenburg and a couple of surrounding counties, and you begin to comprehend that it's ALL about how much wealth you have and how you can get more of it.

There is, however, a significant minority population, many of whom are underpaid immigrants, and my question to the uppercrust is, if you ban the construction of starter homes, just where on earth do you want the people you underpay to live? It's really annoying to see the chasm between the haves and have-nots here. There are also significant racist undertones - for example, just down the street from our house is a home (owned by a white man) with a statue on his front step of a black person in planter's garb waving a confederate flag. How the guy who owns this home sleeps at night is a mystery to me, and why someone hasn't toilet-papered (at the very least) his house is an absolute wonder. This would just never fly up north, at least not in the places I've lived. Here, however, this type of thing is not uncommon. I guess it's true that some in the South are still fighting the Civil War (or the War of Northern Aggression, as they call it down here).

Unfortunately, my reality (for the time being) is that I have to stay in Charlotte. My husband (a Buffalo, NY native) has a wonderful job (not high-paying at all, but very rewarding) at a Christian mission organization...a job which is virtually irreplaceable. I have a reasonably well-paying job here, although nothing that I wouldn't gladly ditch for a chance to return to Syracuse (if my husband's job could be moved there, too!), but my prospects of finding a decent job in Syracuse are not great. At this point, the best I can hope for is that we'll retire in Syracuse.

So, anyhow, I hope CNYers come to appreciate all that they have...a lovely area to live, a reasonable cost of living, lovely communities, FOUR SEASONS (don't underestimate that!), blue/green water (here it's mostly reddish-brown, because of the red clay, I guess) Wegmans, Twin Trees Pizza (Italian food here is pretty awful), the Regional Market, etc...not to mention the excellent infrastructure, schools, and services (my acquaintances here are SO proud of low taxes; they tease me constantly about NYS taxes, but you get what you pay for - here the schools are so-so at best, the infrastructure is horrendous, and there are not a lot of services)...not to mention the warm, friendly natives. How I wish I were living there still!

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I moved to the metropolitan Charlotte, NC area from Syracuse a little over two years ago. Initially, I was really enthusiastic about the move, but after two years of trying to adapt, I am aching to get back to Syracuse.
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Replace Charlotte with Raleigh and Syracuse with Rochester (therefore CNY with WNY) and you have my EXACT sentiments.

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Old 10-02-2006, 04:11 PM
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Replace Charlotte with Raleigh and Syracuse with Rochester (therefore CNY with WNY) and you have my EXACT sentiments.
Replace replacing Charlotte with Raleigh with St. Petersburg, FL and Syracuse with Rochester and you have MY exact sentiments.

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