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Currently NY is the number two state for debt load and frankly as I still live here the only one I'm concerned with.
Taxes are already at the point they are driving people out so new taxes are not gonna be the answer.
So its gonna have to be spending cuts. So what is NY states plan??
We do have high taxes and we are in debt. Which means we are spending not just to much but way to much. So is that the plan?? Tax and barrow and everything will be ok?? Are people like me that think this will lead to something bad just nervous nellies?? Is tax and barrow really a good idea??
What do you think should happen? I think everyone here can think for themselves. So, I'm interested to see what people here think should occur.
I know my geography genius. I know what I saw that year and I stick with facts through personal experiences as I describe in detail on this forum. Seaside Hts was a dump. The hotel didn't have hot water either and still paid for the night anyhow. How's the Philly sports scene looking ? Probably be another 25 years before one of your 4 teams wins a championship and it sure as hell won't be the Eagles.
Not a Philly sports fan at all, so I really could care less. But seriously, you're putting down the Eagles in Arizona Cardinals land? I've seen high school girls that could throw the ball better than Ryan Lindley.
Seaside Heights is not my favorite beach in NJ, and is probably the beach most NJ people ignore unless you are 24 and look like Snooki. Its popular with a certain demographic and that's about it. Its like 1 square mile of tacky development and immediately to the south is an 18 mile stretch of undeveloped beach with bald eagles, fox, deer, etc. Nice thing about NJ beaches is you can just go to the next town and its completely different in character:
Great link Sean. Spells it out clear as day. I'm sure those drinking away at Troy taverns will feel better about their contributions to NY State as well.
Cuts to state government are already happening! Employment in the capital region is coming down, not because of business, but because state government is laying people off. It's not likethe government is saying "Noooo we need more money from taxes because we're greedy!" They just want cuts in government services to be pared with higher revenues (taxes) primarily paid for by the rich.
Not a Philly sports fan at all, so I really could care less. But seriously, you're putting down the Eagles in Arizona Cardinals land? I've seen high school girls that could throw the ball better than Ryan Lindley.
Seaside Heights is not my favorite beach in NJ, and is probably the beach most NJ people ignore unless you are 24 and look like Snooki. Its popular with a certain demographic and that's about it. Its like 1 square mile of tacky development and immediately to the south is an 18 mile stretch of undeveloped beach with bald eagles, fox, deer, etc. Nice thing about NJ beaches is you can just go to the next town and its completely different in character:
The Eagles are the one team the Cardinals have owned. They prevented that choker Donovan McNabb from reaching the Super Bowl too.
Jersey is bush leagued any way you slice it. Atlantic City is Camden with a strip of casinos and beachfront. Thank the Indian Reservations throughout the NE for that.
Funny how your list includes sparsely populated states along the oceanfront outside of FL. I'll tell the 54 people in Southern Delaware that they have a clean beach.
I agree with most of your posts, and admire your fervent passion for Upstate, but lets keep things accurate. Charlotte and Raleigh, by nearly all metrics, is less expensive or on par with most places upstate when all taxes are figured in. The cost of water or the cost for personal property tax on a car or two is far outweighed by the difference in property tax, which is on the order of thousand of dollars per year for most people:
As far as the growth rate in southern metros, especially Raleigh, I'd be interested to know where you got the statistics stating that the growth has slowed. Growth in 2000-2009 was 4th fastest in the country at 41%. And from 2011 to 2012, it has been 3.4% in one year, more than many Upstate areas have grown in a decade. It is also projected to be the fastest growing area in the country by 2020.
Personally, I don't see why this has to be an Upstate vs Southern States argument. Both areas have their upsides. Stating a fact that NC is growing faster or has lower taxes does not automatically put the other side down. Its just a fact. Just keep it real and post accurate information, so relocators can be informed of the real differences and make an intelligent decision.
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Go back a few pages. 22 of the 25 counties in the US that have the highest taxes per home value ratio are in NY State. Orleans and Niagara leading the way with your Onondaga in the top 10.
I agree with most of your posts, and admire your fervent passion for Upstate, but lets keep things accurate. Charlotte and Raleigh, by nearly all metrics, is less expensive or on par with most places upstate when all taxes are figured in. The cost of water or the cost for personal property tax on a car or two is far outweighed by the difference in property tax, which is on the order of thousand of dollars per year for most people:
As far as the growth rate in southern metros, especially Raleigh, I'd be interested to know where you got the statistics stating that the growth has slowed. Growth in 2000-2009 was 4th fastest in the country at 41%. And from 2011 to 2012, it has been 3.4% in one year, more than many Upstate areas have grown in a decade. It is also projected to be the fastest growing area in the country by 2020.
There have been numerous articles over the last 4 years about how the populations swing to the South has declined. That doesn't mean their populations aren't increasing, but the massive numbers of people moving daily have dropped considerably. At the peak of southern relocation, Atlanta was getting 10,000 new residents a day!
The sales tax in Charlotte was 9.25 or 9.75 percent last time I was there (last year). Mecklenburg County probably tax on something. Wouldn't surprise me since Mecklenburg County is a bit odd. Slaes tax where I live in NY is 7.50%. So yeah 2.25% higher is a lot!
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