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Old 04-12-2013, 08:22 PM
 
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You know Vintage, Nevada's biggest mistake over the past 20 years is relying too much on tourism and not diversifying their economy. If they did as other Sun Belt state's have, Nevada would be rolling in the dough. As a Libertarian, their overall government policies are ideal.

No state income taxes but socially liberal on being responsible for your own actions. Namely gun ownership and prostitution (outside of Clark and Washoe Counties (Vegas and Reno)). I believe if NY legalized prostitution, it would reduce the number of sex crimes committed. It would give an outlet to those with no skills to make a decent living and their extra money can help the economy in spending. The costs of blood testing for STD's is way less than what these people would contribute to the economy getting 20-30% of $300/hr which is the cut the girls generally get in NV at cat houses.I also come from Jesse Ventura's school that drugs should be legalized. You'd have millions of petty and hardcore drug dealers in NY State forced to work a real job and not collect welfare while making big bucks dealing. The argument I always hear is , "people will get addicted more easily." I believe in "survival of the fittest." If you know of the dangers of doing drugs, don't do it. If you get hooked, dig yourself out of the ditch. Do not rely on taxpayers to give you a tax free lifestyle of SSDI and welfare for being a 30 or 40 year old drug addict. That is what NY promotes far too easily with their liberal entitlements to those of working age who don't truly have to correct their wrong decisions. They make more tax free on welfare and free health care than someone who has enough pride to work a menial gig for less than $10/hr. There is no incentive to "get off the system" and NY along with Michigan and California are the biggest offenders for that.
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Old 04-12-2013, 08:53 PM
 
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You know Vintage, Nevada's biggest mistake over the past 20 years is relying too much on tourism and not diversifying their economy. If they did as other Sun Belt state's have, Nevada would be rolling in the dough. As a Libertarian, their overall government policies are ideal.

No state income taxes but socially liberal on being responsible for your own actions. Namely gun ownership and prostitution (outside of Clark and Washoe Counties (Vegas and Reno)). I believe if NY legalized prostitution, it would reduce the number of sex crimes committed. It would give an outlet to those with no skills to make a decent living and their extra money can help the economy in spending. The costs of blood testing for STD's is way less than what these people would contribute to the economy getting 20-30% of $300/hr which is the cut the girls generally get in NV at cat houses.I also come from Jesse Ventura's school that drugs should be legalized. You'd have millions of petty and hardcore drug dealers in NY State forced to work a real job and not collect welfare while making big bucks dealing. The argument I always hear is , "people will get addicted more easily." I believe in "survival of the fittest." If you know of the dangers of doing drugs, don't do it. If you get hooked, dig yourself out of the ditch. Do not rely on taxpayers to give you a tax free lifestyle of SSDI and welfare for being a 30 or 40 year old drug addict. That is what NY promotes far too easily with their liberal entitlements to those of working age who don't truly have to correct their wrong decisions. They make more tax free on welfare and free health care than someone who has enough pride to work a menial gig for less than $10/hr. There is no incentive to "get off the system" and NY along with Michigan and California are the biggest offenders for that.
If you're a libertarian, NY is probably not the best state for you. There's no doubt in my mind that western and some southern states are more free than NY, with all the good and bad that goes along with that. Personally, I don't think legalized prostitution is the answer for a state like NY. With 19 million people, there could be major issues with that. Keep in mind that prostitution is still illegal in Las Vegas, obviously to attract families and a more upscale element to LV, as those are the segments that spend the most money.

Nevada is a state that still has a rural, wild west population and it attracts people to these "cat houses" if they want to go there- which is exactly my point, whatever is important to you, there's a state that conforms to that ideology. Utah has more subscriptions to pornography than any other state, so many places can fit the bill.

I do think that NY could benefit greatly from the legalization of marijuana. As could nearly every other state in the country. The decriminalization would lessen the burden on jails, decriminalize people who shouldn't be there in the first place for a harmless weed, and the multitude of uses for hemp is unbelievable . From hemp oil powering vehicles, to clothing, to paper, etc. Its an idea that would be good for NY.

I also realize that there's a ton of people on welfare in NY, and other states, and maybe less benefits are in order, or hard limits, mandatory drug testing, criminal background checks, etc.
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Old 04-12-2013, 09:13 PM
 
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If you're a libertarian, NY is probably not the best state for you. There's no doubt in my mind that western and some southern states are more free than NY, with all the good and bad that goes along with that. Personally, I don't think legalized prostitution is the answer for a state like NY. With 19 million people, there could be major issues with that. Keep in mind that prostitution is still illegal in Las Vegas, obviously to attract families and a more upscale element to LV, as those are the segments that spend the most money.

Nevada is a state that still has a rural, wild west population and it attracts people to these "cat houses" if they want to go there- which is exactly my point, whatever is important to you, there's a state that conforms to that ideology. Utah has more subscriptions to pornography than any other state, so many places can fit the bill.

I do think that NY could benefit greatly from the legalization of marijuana. As could nearly every other state in the country. The decriminalization would lessen the burden on jails, decriminalize people who shouldn't be there in the first place for a harmless weed, and the multitude of uses for hemp is unbelievable . From hemp oil powering vehicles, to clothing, to paper, etc. Its an idea that would be good for NY.

I also realize that there's a ton of people on welfare in NY, and other states, and maybe less benefits are in order, or hard limits, mandatory drug testing, criminal background checks, etc.
Unfortunately, the legalization of drugs is a pipedream. Why ? The government would lose too much money. Just as is the commentary of corruption we saw on Miami Vice, the idea is to keep the "little fish" alive in order to lure in the "big fish." The government as we know is very hypocritical . Keep the dime baggers on the streets to later snitch out the big dogs with kilos.

Utah most definitely is not for me despite the beautiful scenery. Phoenix is very libertarian, especially where I live in Tempe. The Maricopa politics are far right but that's mostly on breaking the law and the illegal immigration issues. I drink alcohol but never tried coke or any hard stuff during my party years of HS and college. However, I never had an issue with those who did it and always felt it should be legalized.

I also believe there are more cures out there for illnesses than the public knows. Just as legalizing drugs would cost the State and Feds big bucks, admitting that cures for HIV and/or cancer are available would bankrupt doctors and all in the medical field. I respect Magic Johnson but I believe he signed a waiver back in 1991 to never disclose that he got an HIV vaccine exclusively for the big shots.

Back to prostitution. I'm married and never "paid for it" in my life. You notice how many adult on adult sex crimes involve ugly dudes forcing the issue ? I truly believe (I am not a psychologist) that it;'s brought on by aggression due to a lack of getting action from women. If someone like that had an outlet to get off for $300, there may be many women spared of rape.

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Old 04-12-2013, 09:14 PM
 
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If you're a libertarian, NY is probably not the best state for you. There's no doubt in my mind that western and some southern states are more free than NY, with all the good and bad that goes along with that. Personally, I don't think legalized prostitution is the answer for a state like NY. With 19 million people, there could be major issues with that. Keep in mind that prostitution is still illegal in Las Vegas, obviously to attract families and a more upscale element to LV, as those are the segments that spend the most money.

Nevada is a state that still has a rural, wild west population and it attracts people to these "cat houses" if they want to go there- which is exactly my point, whatever is important to you, there's a state that conforms to that ideology. Utah has more subscriptions to pornography than any other state, so many places can fit the bill.

I do think that NY could benefit greatly from the legalization of marijuana. As could nearly every other state in the country. The decriminalization would lessen the burden on jails, decriminalize people who shouldn't be there in the first place for a harmless weed, and the multitude of uses for hemp is unbelievable . From hemp oil powering vehicles, to clothing, to paper, etc. Its an idea that would be good for NY.

I also realize that there's a ton of people on welfare in NY, and other states, and maybe less benefits are in order, or hard limits, mandatory drug testing, criminal background checks, etc.
I referenced Clark County not allowing prostitution. That is why Nye County 45 minutes away has many set up right on the border in places like Pahrump and Beatty,NV.

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Old 04-12-2013, 09:39 PM
 
Location: Upstate NY/NJ
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Unfortunately, the legalization of drugs is a pipedream. Why ? The government would lose too much money. Just as is the commentary of corruption we saw on Miami Vice, the idea is to keep the "little fish" alive in order to lure in the "big fish." The government as we know is very hypocritical . Keep the dime baggers on the streets to later snitch out the big dogs with kilos. I hear ya. But it does seem like small amounts of marijuana is becoming decriminalized in certain states. So it is moving in a positive direction, at least.

Utah most definitely is not for me despite the beautiful scenery. Phoenix is very libertarian, especially where I live in Tempe. The Maricopa politics are far right but that's mostly on breaking the law and the illegal immigration issues. I drink alcohol but never tried coke or any hard stuff during my party years of HS and college. However, I never had an issue with those who did it and always felt it should be legalized. I think Joe Arpaio is too much of a renegade personally, but I'm not living along the border, so I really shouldn't judge.

I also believe there are more cures out there for illnesses than the public knows. Just as legalizing drugs would cost the State and Feds big bucks, admitting that cures for HIV and/or cancer are available would bankrupt doctors and all in the medical field. I respect Magic Johnson but I believe he signed a waiver back in 1991 to never disclose that he got an HIV vaccine exclusively for the big shots. Its possible. There certainly seems to be a vested interest in keeping people sick in this country, unfortunately. Healthcare is the one thing that should not be subjected to a capitalistic system.

Back to prostitution. I'm married and never "paid for it" in my life. You notice how many adult on adult sex crimes involve ugly dudes forcing the issue ? I truly believe (I am not a psychologist) that it;'s brought on by aggression due to a lack of getting action from women. If someone like that had an outlet to get off for $300, there may be many women spared of rape.
Certainly could be true, but I think keeping it legal in 1 rural state is the best idea. So, you have the option, but its not in every neighborhood. JMHO.
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Old 04-12-2013, 09:46 PM
 
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Certainly could be true, but I think keeping it legal in 1 rural state is the best idea. So, you have the option, but its not in every neighborhood. JMHO.
Arpaio is a narcissist for sure. However, one only deals with his wrath if they break the law. For the most part, it keeps people in line. People are friendlier here than NY. Part of it is most everyone is a transplant and they welcoming. Part of it is you don't know who carries a gun so that keeps people in line out in public. No one is spared for DUI's. Mark Grace is spending 4 months in Tent City every night after being out on work release during the day. You know, the one who started the Dbacks rally to beat Rivera in Game 7 9th Inning of the WS ?

Prescriptions are meant as we know to contain or slow down health ailments, not cure them. The FDA is in no rush to admit to what they know.
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Old 04-13-2013, 08:00 AM
 
Location: plano
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NY state is running an ad on golf channel during the Masters claiming it is lowering taxes to attract jobs. Is that true? If so which taxes have been lowered? If NY states recognizes tax levels and rates impact job negatively, why doesnt the fed gov do the same specifically the liberal party in charge? Its patently obvious that higher than competition tax rates and levels impact jobs....its nice to see a liberal state recognize this reality...if they truly are
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Old 04-13-2013, 08:25 AM
 
Location: Not Oneida
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NY isn't cutting any taxes nor will they ever.

They made some noise about slowing the rate of increase but that quickly fizzled.

Cumo is a far left Democrat but is also pretty smart and realized that his side had pushed to far and wiped a state out. He seemed to have seen the damage but it was too late he took over a state that has already failed.
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Old 04-13-2013, 09:22 AM
 
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I believe the commercials were citing the property tax cap as the lowered tax. However the towns and villages have easily found their way around that. They can only raise property taxes by 2% every year. So now they raise assessed values. This year many people have seen their values go up substantially. Mine went from 118k to 200k, even though I did nothing to my house. Well I painted my living room yellow. Maybe someone got confused and thought it was solid gold?

I just talked to a cousin who lives about 45 minutes from Rochester. They are living with my Aunt and Uncle, they sold their house and moved in with them to save money for a couple years. I asked how the house hunting is going and he said not well. They cannot afford the property taxes out that way on the homes they look at. It was sad, they are getting pretty depressed about it.
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Old 04-13-2013, 10:28 AM
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The real unregulated burden for every home owner is the School Tax, property taxes maybe capped but those school boards are running amok. Afterall it is for the children...
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