dont move to utica ny (Syracuse, Little Falls: sales, school district, college)

[RS085]

Originally Posted by Jeromeville

If I understood what your point was with that comment, I'd respond. We didn't have any economic boom up here in the '90s at all, if that's what you're getting at.

Wall Street did.

Somehow its Wall Street's fault now though, for supposedly "screwing everything up for the rest of us" when the economy upstate is **** anyway.

Dont see the logic in your posts.

so - when Wall Street does well it doesnt affect upstate, but when it falters then it does? Im lost.

[goldengrain]

Originally Posted by RS085

Wall Street did.

Somehow its Wall Street's fault now though, for supposedly "screwing everything up for the rest of us" when the economy upstate is **** anyway.

Dont see the logic in your posts.

so - when Wall Street does well it doesnt affect upstate, but when it falters then it does? Im lost.

I get tired of hearing about Wall Street being so greedy. Do we blame a fish for swimming? The nature of the functionality of Wall Street IS greed, although I hear the media continually beating the drum against them.

The problem is that corporations/special interests have way too much influence on the workings of our government. Government is here to see to it that the overall good of the country is served through the machinations of interchanges between us.

After the Great Depression bills were passed which regulated financial markets to ensure that no such thing would ever happen again. Through the years both Congress and the Presidents of both parties have chipped away from these, the Glass-Steagall Bills, until nothing at all remained to bridle the greed of our financial types. All of this could have been easily predicted. History repeats itself for those who do not learn its lessons. The media dropped the ball on reporting on this because it happened bit by bit. Gradually. The media just wants sensational headlines. It loses in the ratings when it tries to educate people.

The fact is that there are not enough safeguards built into our government to prevent pressure groups from trumping the interests of the people. This is not a country of, by, and for business interests.

We have been let down many times by our government. That the Bush administration can get away scott free with the slaughter of our children and people of other nations on the basis of their lies really makes me think that our democracy hangs on the loose thread of the honor of the person/s in power. It should not be so.

A pet peeve of mine is also the smokescreen of the war on drugs, when we have evidence of the CIA, years back, was importing drugs for sale in the US to finance black ops. Then, there is that time when a plane with caskets from Iraq crashed and a casket flipped open and what was in it? Drugs. And the Bush administration said it did not want journalists to view the caskets coming back - the stupid media, who certainly should have known better, put up the smoke screen of the government not wanting a pictoral view of all the dead service people.

The system is not working. We address the individual issue, but do nothing to ensure that it will not happen again.

I don't know if the media is just asleep at the switch or if they are complicit. These are serious issues that should be called to our attention repeatedly.

How can a democracy stand with an uneducated population and an irresponsible media? Don't get me started on the corruption of drug money on both police and government, even here, at home.

We are worth more than this.
We deserve better.

[catnapper]

I grew up outside of Utica in New Hartford New York . It was the best places to grow up. The air was clean, the water was great, neighbors friendly, my school was great, and as a kid I really didn't appreciate it till I got older and now I look back it was the best time of my life. We had land and beautiful scenery where we lived. The land in Oneida County is the some of the best agricultural land in the state. Many beautiful vistas. We had a huge garden, we would go apple picking and berry picking. We could go horse riding and had many baseball games and skiing and snowmobile riding right in our own back yard. If we wanted Italian food the restaurants in East Utica were the best and still are. If we wanted a haddock fish fry there were 100 places to go get one for $4.95 on Friday nite, (that was years ago.) If we wanted to go shopping we had three malls, now I guess they are the shopping capital of NYS they have so many stores. We had many clubs and community events. We had the Stanley theater for plays and Proctors Museum which is world class.
We had many things that you take for granted as a kid that kids in cities will never experience. Life is what you make it . My parents wanted us to have a good upbringing and so made this available to us. It was them who made our life . Life is what you make it! And your happiness comes from that.

[abcdfg]

i agree with some points but disagree with others, i lived in the north utica aera as well as cornhill,as far as north utica goes and i liked it friendly people, safe atmosphere for kids, the dogs are friendly some pit bulls, yes, but loose and roaming the streets biting every person they see no. the schools arent great but we do learn and yes there are ghetto kids but they dont come as a threat, the roads arent wonderful but we cant help the weather. not everyone is poor i dont see cardboard boxes with people covered in newspaper inside them all over the city. i personally dont drink the tap water but thats just me but plenty of my friends drink it and they never got lead poisining. plus the italian food is great in my opinion the best in the country. but if your looking for snowdays dont come here we NEVER got any. as far as weather goes we get bad winters and decent summers. but the adorondacks are gorgeous it really is a sight to see. one bad thing is that utica gets alot of fires. the jobs arent great but vets,techers,doctors,dentists,nurses, ect. arent bad jobs to look into. so no McDonalds isnt our only means of emploment here. other that that dont mind utica and i dont think we deserve to get shot that was a stupid remark. but other than that i can answer any questions anyone has about the schools,neighborhoods, ect. feel free to ask.

[abcdfg]

and general herkimer isnt bad i like it. school i went to jefferson and they are really big into health and fitness.

[someonewhoknows]

Utica, NY may have been a nice area once, but not anymore. This city is very corrupt and it includes the current mayor. If you are not one of the "chosen", you are all done. In this city, organized crime is running rampant. This includes politicians, judges, DA's, any person in politics and more.
If you are stupid and connected and couldn't win an honorable election, you will get the job. They have a habit of slipping certain individuals into elected recently vacated positions prior to so come election time, you may win!

Drugs are highly inclusive in this area. If they wish, they'll order a drug hit on an individual with the help of these corrupt judges and DA's, the individual goes away, or out of the way.

They'll steal your DNA or make it up and you'll go bye-bye. Utica is 1950's Utica, but worse. They are currently arranging a fall for a female who someone place a "contract" on her head for no reason other than as one said regaining Utica, again.......

The powers that be will breach all laws, cover up laws or make up crimes to solve. They have used their surrveillance/security to crimininally intercept communications or invade ones' privacy.

When this is seen, the goombahs will fly.

[ckhthankgod]

Originally Posted by someonewhoknows

Utica, NY may have been a nice area once, but not anymore. This city is very corrupt and it includes the current mayor. If you are not one of the "chosen", you are all done. In this city, organized crime is running rampant. This includes politicians, judges, DA's, any person in politics and more.
If you are stupid and connected and couldn't win an honorable election, you will get the job. They have a habit of slipping certain individuals into elected recently vacated positions prior to so come election time, you may win!

Drugs are highly inclusive in this area. If they wish, they'll order a drug hit on an individual with the help of these corrupt judges and DA's, the individual goes away, or out of the way.

They'll steal your DNA or make it up and you'll go bye-bye. Utica is 1950's Utica, but worse. They are currently arranging a fall for a female who someone place a "contract" on her head for no reason other than as one said regaining Utica, again.......

The powers that be will breach all laws, cover up laws or make up crimes to solve. They have used their surrveillance/security to crimininally intercept communications or invade ones' privacy.

When this is seen, the goombahs will fly.

Is it really that bad? I know cities like Niagara Falls and even Oswego for a little time, had similar issues. I thought that aspect of Utica was pretty much over.

[proulxfamily]

Not quite sure why people consider Binghamton ""Central NY" when it lies, almost exactly, on the southern border. Central means "located in the center or middle of an area." Binghamton isn't central.

[bellafinzi]

Originally Posted by proulxfamily

Not quite sure why people consider Binghamton ""Central NY" when it lies, almost exactly, on the southern border. Central means "located in the center or middle of an area." Binghamton isn't central.

Agreed!!!!

Binghamton is Southern Tier. Heck, in my mind Ithaca is more connected with the Southern Tier than Central NY.

[someonewhoknows]

Originally Posted by ckhthankgod

Is it really that bad? I know cities like Niagara Falls and even Oswego for a little time, had similar issues. I thought that aspect of Utica was pretty much over.

No, and today, The Uticaod had begun writing articles called the Mob Files. Organized crime still flourishes here. If you get in the way, they put you out of the way. The mayor is highly obsessed with guns and drugs.....