Up-State New York (Buffalo, Rochester, Syracuse: rent, school, campus)

[shibainu]

Originally Posted by bellafinzi

The Statistics for the Syracuse Area - Demographic Profile for Onondaga County, New York

-82.2 percent White
-10.2 percent African American
-2.8 percent Hispanic
-2.5 percent Asian
-0.9 percent American Indian

-5.7 percent Foreign born persons
-8.9 percent Language other than English spoken at home

Onondaga County QuickFacts from the US Census Bureau

That is correct the county is 82% white, but what is the suburb of the city. What i did was remove the city data and only used the suburbs and that is where you get 97% or so are White. So to say it one more time Onondaga County suburbs of syracuse are 96-98% white and the Total population of the county which syracuse is apart of is 82% white.

[shibainu]

Originally Posted by rochacha

Since I know you have never found a statistic you didn't like, can you please invest some time to find a way to display them so they can be read easily?

i will work on that.

[shibainu]

Originally Posted by bellafinzi

I'll do one for Rochester too. (so you can compare)

Demographic Profile for Monroe County

-75.9 percent White
-14.7 percent African American
-5.7 percent Hispanic
-2.9 percent Asian
-0.3 percent American Indian

-7.3 percent Foreign born persons
-12.1 percent Language other than English spoken at home

Monroe County QuickFacts from the US Census Bureau

Figure this out. Monroe county is about 700k to 730k if you look at the african american population it makes up 14.7% that equals 103,398 of which82,868 live inside the city. So 103,398-82,868 = 20,525 African Americans live in Monroe county but outside the city limits. So if you take population of the county 730k and subtract 204k which is the city of rochester population that will equal=526k that live outside the city. so if you take 20,525 divided by 526,000 that equals 4%. So to conclude in Monroe County 4% of African americans Live outside the city. So is that diverse when more than 50% of the population lives outside the city limits.

[bellafinzi]

Originally Posted by shibainu

That is correct the county is 82% white, but what is the suburb of the city. What i did was remove the city data and only used the suburbs and that is where you get 97% or so are White. So to say it one more time Onondaga County suburbs of syracuse are 96-98% white and the Total population of the county which syracuse is apart of is 82% white.

You are still wrong.

Here is the data for the major suburbs of Syracuse:

-DeWitt 89% white
-Clay 92% white
-Salina 93% white
-Manlius 94% white
-Onondaga 94% white
-Cicero 96% white
-Lysander 96% white
-Camillus 96% white
-Geddes 97% white
-Van Buren 97% white

I do not understand how you can get to 96% - 98% white for all the suburbs when the three largest suburban towns....1. Clay is 92% white, 2. Salina is 93% white and 3. Manlius is 94% white. The population of those three towns is about 125,000...which is half the population of the Syracuse suburbs.

Get my point yet? I'm not quite sure what the real percentage is yet, but I'd guess roughly 95% of the suburbs of Syracuse are white.

[I'minformed2]

are we really arguing over a 1% difference in white poplation estimates?

[Beliy Plashik]

soooo mannnny white people!!!!!!
Lmao!!

So much for Diversity (sarcasm) . I would think that New York City.. the most diverse city in America. Probably one of the few most diverse cities in the World.. just 90 miles from it there are cities that do not have diverse populations.

Mostly caucasians.. mehh.

[plattsburgher]

Since your original question concerned the "diversity" of upstate New York towns, did you get your answer and how white is white anyway? I don't think much of New York state is diverse compared with other parts of the country, so if it is true diversity that you are looking to find, uh, you might keep looking.......There may be pockets of diversity here and there, but if you compare it to areas in the western half of the country, uh, not so much..........

[I'minformed2]

The western half of the US more diverse than NYS? Not really. If by "diverse" you mean moslty hispanic for the southwest, and mostly white with a larger percentage of asians in the PNW, I guess you could call it more diverse.

[shibainu]

Originally Posted by I'minformed2

are we really arguing over a 1% difference in white poplation estimates?

I am done with the argument

[bellafinzi]

Originally Posted by I'minformed2

are we really arguing over a 1% difference in white poplation estimates?

shibainu first said 98% of the suburbs of Syracuse are white, which is clearly wrong. All I did was try to correct his mistake.

98% of 250,000 = 5,000 non-whites
95% of 250,000 = 12,500 non-whites

That's a big difference IMO!

Telling us there are only 5,000 non-whites in suburban Syracuse is rather silly... when there are nearly 5,000 non-whites in the Town of Clay alone.....