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Old 12-26-2014, 09:34 AM
 
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I have to laugh at the people who think Monticello is to far from the New York Metropolitan area. New Yorkers, with kids in tow, drive to Cape Cod, Vermont, the Adirondacks, and lots of places that are, without traffic, well over four hours away.

In contrast, Monticello, per Google maps, is 90 MINUTES, from the George Washington Bridge. And despite what the doomsayers want you to believe, as long as you don't leave during rush hour, and/or return Sunday evening, it will be clear sailing at 70MPH.

I also believe that a ton of lower-cost hotels (Super 8, Ramada, etc.) are going to spring up in the Monticello area that will cater to those who will not be able to afford the high rates at the casino.

This is a total winner.
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Old 12-26-2014, 06:55 PM
 
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I have to laugh at the people who think Monticello is to far from the New York Metropolitan area. New Yorkers, with kids in tow, drive to Cape Cod, Vermont, the Adirondacks, and lots of places that are, without traffic, well over four hours away.

In contrast, Monticello, per Google maps, is 90 MINUTES, from the George Washington Bridge. And despite what the doomsayers want you to believe, as long as you don't leave during rush hour, and/or return Sunday evening, it will be clear sailing at 70MPH.

I also believe that a ton of lower-cost hotels (Super 8, Ramada, etc.) are going to spring up in the Monticello area that will cater to those who will not be able to afford the high rates at the casino.

This is a total winner.
I agree with you.

I have made it from central Long Island to Lake George in 4 hours. So there is no reason someone in the northern NYC suburbs in the Hudson Valley (Rockland, Orange, Westchester) and even NYC itself cannot make it to Monticello for even less time.
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Old 12-26-2014, 08:03 PM
 
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You people are gravely mistaken. The whole industry is over saturated. As usually, NY gets I the game too little, too late. Look at the Mt. airy lodge casino in PA and you will see what awaits the casino in Sullivan co. I'm just glad they didn't bring it to Orange co. where I live. Any time this crooked politicians look to
Legalized gambling to solve and correct the mistakes THEY made by mishandling money of the taxpayers it always blows up in their faces.
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Old 12-26-2014, 10:04 PM
 
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You people are gravely mistaken. The whole industry is over saturated. As usually, NY gets I the game too little, too late. Look at the Mt. airy lodge casino in PA and you will see what awaits the casino in Sullivan co. I'm just glad they didn't bring it to Orange co. where I live. Any time this crooked politicians look to
Legalized gambling to solve and correct the mistakes THEY made by mishandling money of the taxpayers it always blows up in their faces.
To be honest, it may be a matter of seeing the success of the Native owned casinos such as the Turning Stone Casino and the Seneca Niagara Casino, among others and both of which can keep their money/revenue within their communities. So, I think that is why the state is getting into the casino industry, in order to compete for that market and to add more revenue for the state via taxes from these casinos.
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Old 12-27-2014, 03:23 AM
 
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When no one from NYC bothers to drive up there, and the casinos don't make it, yes it will be the end of their story.

The AC situation proves that just because you have casinos in the middle of nowhere, it does not mean they will succeed. What market are these casinos supposed to draw from, that aren't already as well served? In point of fact, these casinos have a seven year head start before downstate casinos are authorized. When that happens, or if Jersey wakes up and cuts NYS off at the kneecaps, the upstate casinos may well fail.

Thirty years ago, when it was only AC and that was just starting up, casinos may have saved the Borscht Belt. Now it's really too late.
NYC area has a 7 year ban on new casinos because Resorts World wanted to make a return on their investment and get established in NYC before they had to deal with competing casinos. Even without dealer based table gambling, Resorts World has the highest revenue of any casino in the nation. So you are right that downstate will get most of the gambling revenue, though it may be that a couple of casinos can survive upstate from local gamblers who don't want to go downstate or to NJ.
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Old 12-27-2014, 07:02 AM
 
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I really think people are overlooking the fact that you can buy a train ticket and go direct from NYC to Schenectady, and the casino site is only a few blocks from the train station. I didn't even think of that until this thread, but that could really be convenient.
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Old 12-27-2014, 09:53 AM
 
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Gee-hasn't stopped them from going to Bethel Woods-also in Sullivan County. They'll be 21 minutes apart-top musical shows there. It's not a far drive at all- from the NYC area. Good Lord-17 on a Friday night with all of them heading up to camps there now can be nutty. It's going to be a good thing for the area and it's going to trickle down into the local places.
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Old 12-27-2014, 11:39 AM
 
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I really think people are overlooking the fact that you can buy a train ticket and go direct from NYC to Schenectady, and the casino site is only a few blocks from the train station. I didn't even think of that until this thread, but that could really be convenient.
I think all 3 were strategically placed, as the one in Tyre is near the Waterloo Premium Outlets and is right in the middle of the 3rd biggest wine producing region in the US. So, there seems to have been some thought put into this.
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Old 12-28-2014, 01:53 PM
 
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You people are gravely mistaken. The whole industry is over saturated. As usually, NY gets I the game too little, too late. Look at the Mt. airy lodge casino in PA and you will see what awaits the casino in Sullivan co. I'm just glad they didn't bring it to Orange co. where I live. Any time this crooked politicians look to
Legalized gambling to solve and correct the mistakes THEY made by mishandling money of the taxpayers it always blows up in their faces.
From Wiki - The Mount Airy Casino Resort (formerly Mount Airy Lodge) is a casino and hotel located in Paradise Township, Pennsylvania. The casino resort has 188 hotel rooms, a 62,000 sq ft (5,800 m[SIZE=2]2[/SIZE])[SIZE=2][[/SIZE][SIZE=2]2[/SIZE][SIZE=2]][/SIZE] casino with over 2,000 slot machines and table games, five restaurants, a spa and salon, a nightclub and an 18-hole golf course. Mount Airy Casino and Resort is one of two AAA 4 Diamond Casino Resorts in Pennsylvania, the other being the Sands Casino Resort Bethlehem.

This casino is a pimple compared to what they are planning in Monticello.
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Old 12-28-2014, 03:11 PM
 
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From Wiki - The Mount Airy Casino Resort (formerly Mount Airy Lodge) is a casino and hotel located in Paradise Township, Pennsylvania. The casino resort has 188 hotel rooms, a 62,000 sq ft (5,800 m[SIZE=2]2[/SIZE])[SIZE=2][[/SIZE][SIZE=2]2[/SIZE][SIZE=2]][/SIZE] casino with over 2,000 slot machines and table games, five restaurants, a spa and salon, a nightclub and an 18-hole golf course. Mount Airy Casino and Resort is one of two AAA 4 Diamond Casino Resorts in Pennsylvania, the other being the Sands Casino Resort Bethlehem.

This casino is a pimple compared to what they are planning in Monticello.
So, is this the same place they used to have commercials for on WPIX back in the day?
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