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Old 01-04-2015, 07:16 AM
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Originally Posted by VA Yankee View Post
I find it interesting that they chose investors who are "going to build" facilities rather than choosing existing one that would just upgrade/renovate. I remember reading that the Neville just outside Ellenville was really hoping to be picked and that location would better serve the NYC metro.

But for now it's a start let the fighting over it begin....
IMO the problem with the Nevele is that the only way in is route 209 - about 10 miles of 2 lane road from rt 17. They'd have to do a significant amount of work on that to make getting there a less than infuriating experience for casino-goers and everyone else going through that valley. The Concord site has much better access.
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Old 01-12-2015, 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by BBMW View Post
When no one from NYC bothers to drive up there, and the casinos don't make it, yes it will be the end of their story.

The AC situation proves that just because you have casinos in the middle of nowhere, it does not mean they will succeed. What market are these casinos supposed to draw from, that aren't already as well served? In point of fact, these casinos have a seven year head start before downstate casinos are authorized. When that happens, or if Jersey wakes up and cuts NYS off at the kneecaps, the upstate casinos may well fail.

Thirty years ago, when it was only AC and that was just starting up, casinos may have saved the Borscht Belt. Now it's really too late.

I think they chose Sullivan county because there is a tourist economy that can help support the casino. It won't be just gambling, but many different attractions that the entire family can utilize. It's already a vacation destination, but lacked an anchor destination. The casino area will be 1700 acres of various attractions and outdoor activities, along with luxury hotels and a great golf course.

Orange county is a big suburb, without supporting recreational businesses, just lots of housing developments. Once the novelty of the casino wears off, that's it.

Sullivan county isn't 'the middle of nowhere.' Roscoe is considered the best fly-fishing destination in the country, and plenty of actors and entertainment people are hidden in the woods, renovating their farmhouses. You can't see it from the highway, but it is a desirable area once you investigate and explore.
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