Upstate New York Economic Statistics

[jbertol2]

Originally Posted by acnemaster

If you have vistied the capital district, especially north to Saratoga this should be no surprise to you. It is a booming area...tech jobs are plentiful and there is construction everywhere, both commericial and residential. The biggest threat right now is over devlopment. Not a typical problem for an upstate city.

Overdevelopment? Haha, Albany isn't Raleigh, NC for goodness sake. And I don't doubt that the Albany area is growing, but the growth in Saratoga Springs is not indicative of the prosperity of the entire region. It's like saying Rochester must be booming--just look at Webster!

[I'minformed2]

^^ Couldn't have said it better myself.

[acnemaster]

why is it that Rochester people cannot accept growth outside of Rochester. Yes, over development is a problem. I serve in the local government and our biggest constituant concern is development. Drives that used to take 10 mintues take 45, a 4 lane highway that used to handle traffic is now jammed every morning. The once sparsely populated towns between Albany and Saratoga and now being filled with development unfortunately. This is overdevelopment. The scale is not what it is in Raleigh, but I never said it was.

Sometimes there is growth outside or Rochester, it is true. Sometimes it is more, sometimes it is less. Sometimes places do boom. I stand by what I said, and the statistics seem to support it.

[shibainu]

Originally Posted by acnemaster

why is it that Rochester people cannot accept growth outside of Rochester. Yes, over development is a problem. I serve in the local government and our biggest constituant concern is development. Drives that used to take 10 mintues take 45, a 4 lane highway that used to handle traffic is now jammed every morning. The once sparsely populated towns between Albany and Saratoga and now being filled with development unfortunately. This is overdevelopment. The scale is not what it is in Raleigh, but I never said it was.

Sometimes there is growth outside or Rochester, it is true. Sometimes it is more, sometimes it is less. Sometimes places do boom. I stand by what I said, and the statistics seem to support it.

I would agree the northway is bad and so is 787.

[jbertol2]

Originally Posted by acnemaster

why is it that Rochester people cannot accept growth outside of Rochester.

Originally Posted by jbertol2

And I don't doubt that the Albany area is growing, but the growth in Saratoga Springs is not indicative of the prosperity of the entire region.

No, as you can see, I clearly acknowledged the fact that Albany is growing. Don't worry, it's not keeping me up at night. Your example of Saratoga Springs, however, is an anomalous example of the growth in Albany. It does not reflect the growth of the entire area, and led me to believe that you meant the whole area was being developed at the pace of Saratoga Springs. Obviously, this is not the case.

From what it seems, Albany is growing most at its extremities. Ontario county (the neighboring county of Rochester) is experiencing the same thing.

Democrat & Chronicle: Local News

I have no problem accepting the growth of Albany, except when you blow it out of proportion, and conclude... ("The biggest threat right now is over devlopment. Not a typical problem for an upstate city"). Looks like it just might be a problem in an upstate city!

[acnemaster]

I thought this forum was for sharing opionions? Was I wrong? Is this the "praise Rochester" or the "Rochester is the center of the universe" forum?

[jbertol2]

You have me wrong. I'm not just defending Rochester--I'm defending all of WNY and CNY. My evidence has all involved Rochester because it is the area I'm most familiar with.

The way in which you worded your post suggested that Albany is absolutely blowing away the remainder of Upstate. I was simply trying to disprove that.

And yes, this forum is for sharing opinions. That's exactly what I'm doing.

[BuffaloTransplant]

You will have to move Albany to Buffalo.... The term "Queen City" is actually the "Queen City of the Lake"

[cobra_kai]

i just found this forum...it is wonderful! i see there is some spirited discussion going on between the upstate cities. is there an always east vs west theme going on here?

[jbertol2]

Nah, not really. It was just triggered by this thread, in which Albany was described as booming and the rest of upstate as faltering. A more appropriate statement might have been that Albany is slightly ahead of the rest of upstate in terms of growth, based on the slew of statistics presented in the first post in the thread.