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Well, the Erie Canal and railroads went through the city. It had quite a bit of manufacturing(Rome Cable, Revere Copper(still there but downsized), etc.). It also had Griffiss Air Force Base until 1994, but the Business Park on the former Base still has some government offices and other businesses/industries.
I don't know if it had "an amazing amount" of wealth, but usually with industry comes those at the top that make quite a bit of money.
I'm from the area. I am in shock ---- Rome is NOT thriving with "quite a bit of money." Maybe in the early 1900s but no way now. Have you BEEN on Turin Road lately??????
Wealthier older-money neighborhoods for Utica are actually not existing. Try parts of southern New Hartford or Clinton areas. I don't think much of the old money folks are still in the area.
[quote=ckhthankgod;49187990]what about such areas within the city of Utica? As far as I know, the South Utica area(especially around St. Elizabeth's hospital) and along/near Memorial Parkway in SE Utica seem to have such neighborhoods that are still pretty stable. [url]
What do you mean by stable?
Most of the homes in that area are of older retirees holding onto family homes. The problem in that area is that the sons and daughters did not stay in the Utica area. When they die, the homes will not sell well and the neighborhood changes. We've watched this in Utica for many decades now. Also these homes are bought, carved up for incoming refugees/immigrants and MVCC housing in that area.
Look on the south hills of New Hartford, above Genesee Street; or the outskirts of Clinton. Old money has left NYS; this is new money (or heavily mortgaged money) getting bargains on great historical homes or silly McMansions built of sticks and chewing gum.
Barneveld is not the town it was in the 70s and 80s when I grew up there. Again, the children all left and the historic homes in the village (which is now not even a village anymore, it dissolved itself in 2017 and now is part of the Town of Trenton) have come to sad decay. ETA: Called home to folks: Barneveld voted overwhelmingly to dissolve but has until December to make the final plans.
The areas in Trenton Falls have some old money still there, and Partridge Hill Road (along the river) have homes that have been passed down for generations. The homes on that road rarely come onto the market.
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I'm from the area. I am in shock ---- Rome is NOT thriving with "quite a bit of money." Maybe in the early 1900s but no way now. Have you BEEN on Turin Road lately??????
That post doesn't say that Rome is "thriving".
Also, there are still some nice areas of the city, which is what I was referring to.
Old money is referring to the look and feel of the neighborhood. Many of these neighborhoods, even in Utica and Rome are still middle class according information posted earlier in the thread.
So, it looks like the city's outer West Side has some neighborhoods that would fit and it makes sense given that adjacent West Elmira(cdp) has a median household income in the 80k area.
Not really an old money area, fairly middle class. There is the Renwick Heights and Cornell Heights areas which are old established neighborhoods that have some quite nice housing.
Just curious, but is there an area of Corning that could/would fit? Given that Corning Incorporated is a Fortune 500 company and has been there for over a century.
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