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NYC and NYS represent a government of the public sector union worker, by the public sector union worker and for the public sector union worker.
NYC likes to talk a lot of s*** about how it's the financial capital of the world and what have you but the (5) largest employers in NYC by far are government.
I told my trainers that, when I walk from the gym to my office on days I workout during the week, I'm not a guy going to work rather a sheep on its way to the slaughterhouse. We pay insane taxes to be ripped off by the public sector unions.
Remember, in other cities, people refer to figurative or metaphorical s*** on the streets or s*** here and there. In NYC, it's biological feces on the streets. The only question is whether it's human, dog, rat, or horse feces. That's all NYers get for their taxes are feces on the streets and a boated public sector union workforce (they're essentially one and the same).
Only in New York for seven months, and you've nailed it! Congratulations! It's no wonder the property taxes are so high. Unionized labor both public and private is a core constituency of the Democrat Party. New York's legislature is bought and paid for by public sector employee's unions. Their motto should be "ask and ye shall receive". New York's motto is the "Empire State". More appropriate would be the "Vampire State" as it sucks the economic life blood out of those who remain and foot the bill there. I hope for your sake you can get out of there soon.
So, lets try something new. Bernie has different ideas. I'm open to trying them.
Are you serious? Because I can't tell. Socialism is new? Since when? Socialism has failed and keeps failing. There is nothing new about it.
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Originally Posted by VintageSunlight
There's no point in arguing politics with people I don't know. I'm not going to change your mind and you're not going to change mine. So, its pointless.
I am not looking to change your mind, I am just looking to expose Bernie and other progressives. Lenin called this "unmasking your enemies." Bernie and his ilk are enemies of Americanism. Bernie represents a very dangerous ideology. Socialism's track record is atrocious, economically, human rights, everything.
Only in New York for seven months, and you've nailed it! Congratulations! It's no wonder the property taxes are so high. Unionized labor both public and private is a core constituency of the Democrat Party. New York's legislature is bought and paid for by public sector employee's unions. Their motto should be "ask and ye shall receive". New York's motto is the "Empire State". More appropriate would be the "Vampire State" as it sucks the economic life blood out of those who remain and foot the bill there. I hope for your sake you can get out of there soon.
Thanks.
How long did you live here?
The worst part is, things in NYS will never change based on the demographics and voting blocks. Between public sector workers, those on the dole, cronies of the left, and others, the (D) party will continue to run this state (into the ground) for decades to come.
I've skipped over the last several pages of this discussion, as I don't want to get into politics, but I did want to comment on this:
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Originally Posted by IamDot
Amen. Unless you are a public school teacher or work for the state government, you can't afford to live in NY. Soon, as the private employment sector disappears completely, the only people paying the salaries of state employees will be the employees themselves.
My friends who are public school teachers are leaving. I'm technically a state employee (but without a union or state pension, so maybe I'm not the "traditional" sort of state employee you are referencing), and I'm far from feeling secure in my job or pay. We "afford" to live here by watching every penny - but I'd do that no matter where I lived, so I can't say as I know any different.
I grew up in Western NYS, and now live in the Southern Tier. I lived in PA for several years, but came back to be closer to my family (and because I had a terrible job in PA, truth be told). I tend to be socially liberal, but I'm tired of watching taxes rise and the services provided dwindle. Our schools are deteriorating - both architecturally and in academic rigor, roads aren't being maintained, cops are being laid off, and no one can say exactly WHERE the money is going.
The worst part is, things in NYS will never change based on the demographics and voting blocks. Between public sector workers, those on the dole, cronies of the left, and others, the (D) party will continue to run this state (into the ground) for decades to come.
Long enough, 55 years. I would have left sooner, I had to convince my wife. After several trips to the Southwest she was convinced. We both share the same political beliefs. Her only fear was leaving all of our friends and family and everything we were familiar with to move to a place where we knew absolutely no one.
Turned out to be the best move we ever made. Neither of us have any desire to ever go back not even for a visit. This is where we truly belong.
You're indeed correct New York will never change at least not to our's and I'm assuming to your liking. I used to bang my head against the wall contacting my state and local legislators about all the things I felt were wrong with New York State. So often that they even knew my name. I was even able to speak to them personally. Including former Governor Pataki whom I knew from living in Peekskill where he was once mayor.
Long enough, 55 years. I would have left sooner, I had to convince my wife. After several trips to the Southwest she was convinced. We both share the same political beliefs. Her only fear was leaving all of our friends and family and everything we were familiar with to move to a place where we knew absolutely no one.
Turned out to be the best move we ever made. Neither of us have any desire to ever go back not even for a visit. This is where we truly belong.
You're indeed correct New York will never change at least not to our's and I'm assuming to your liking. I used to bang my head against the wall contacting my state and local legislators about all the things I felt were wrong with New York State. So often that they even knew my name. I was even able to speak to them personally. Including former Governor Pataki whom I knew from living in Peekskill where he was once mayor.
Best of luck to you!
Yes, speaking to legislators is literally banging one's head against the wall. As noted, they're wholly owned subsidiaries of the public sector unions and work for them while continuing to fleece us.
Anything they say about considering different options and having discussions is pure lip service and hot air. At the end of the day, they'll do what their public sector union masters want which is rip us (taxpayers) off more and more. There is a sucker born every minute, so there are more than enough people who will keep NY Democratic well beyond the duration of our lives.
Are you serious? Because I can't tell. Socialism is new? Since when? Socialism has failed and keeps failing. There is nothing new about it.
I am not looking to change your mind, I am just looking to expose Bernie and other progressives. Lenin called this "unmasking your enemies." Bernie and his ilk are enemies of Americanism. Bernie represents a very dangerous ideology. Socialism's track record is atrocious, economically, human rights, everything.
NYC and NYS represent a government of the public sector union worker, by the public sector union worker and for the public sector union worker.
NYC likes to talk a lot of s*** about how it's the financial capital of the world and what have you but the (5) largest employers in NYC by far are government.
I told my trainers that, when I walk from the gym to my office on days I workout during the week, I'm not a guy going to work rather a sheep on its way to the slaughterhouse. We pay insane taxes to be ripped off by the public sector unions.
Remember, in other cities, people refer to figurative or metaphorical s*** on the streets or s*** here and there. In NYC, it's biological feces on the streets. The only question is whether it's human, dog, rat, or horse feces. That's all NYers get for their taxes are feces on the streets and a boated public sector union workforce (they're essentially one and the same).
Not every civil service worker makes enough to live here. The school district I work for historically under pays it's support staff. Most of the people who are monitors in our district all are on some sort of state aid. I make under 40K a year. I pay out almost 9,800 a year JUST for my dental and health insurance. There is nothing for optical. As a public employee, there is no disability insurance since we are paid by the public. God forbid you or your spouse gets cancer and can't work. You are just broke at that point.
I bring home after medical, taxes and dues- $425.00 a week for 40 hours. I get no retirement benefits when I retire-which if I stay here will be never. I have to pay the full amount to get COBRA for health insurance at that time.
So tell me again how GREAT these civil service tests are and great jobs. It's a crap shoot into what district you land in after taking the test. I've not even been able to make a lateral move to another district because no one in the higher paid districts are leaving. They have it much better. I work a split shift to boot dispatching school buses. 5am to 9am, then off until 12 when I work til 4pm. But it never ends out that way, I always end up there for longer hours. And when the letter comes down for no more over-time, I get to stay for free. It's that great?
Our house is up for sale at the end of next month. There IS NO construction here in the mid-Hudson Valley. My spouse worked as concrete dispatcher, his company sold out to a big company and everyone lost their jobs. So he's only been able to get part time work-at Wally World for under 11hr. How is that helping pay our $8k in taxes? It's piddly. He worked for one company for 21 years. It's sad.
So we are taking the money from the sale of our house-we own it out right as we paid it off-and taking our money to where it'll go much further. Yes, we'll take a salary cut. But where we are looking, it'll be more in line with what salaries are there in that area. I can fully afford property tax on WITH ANY job when taxes are about $1000 a year. And lo and behold-they have nicer parks and get this-they support their students in their school and root for that high school team to win the championship. Not hate them like it is here. I'll have some disposable income again. All I do is work, sleep, repeat as there's NOTHING left for entertainment or enjoyment. We went from making over 70K to 48K. Big difference. The median income right now where I live is 82K a year. Just for a person to afford a 1 bedroom apartment. My kids moved out of NYS two years ago because of lack of living wage jobs. They couldn't afford studio apartments that were running over $1200 a month. It's stupid around here.
So we are joining that long line of people leaving. I am 50. I want to work another 15 years. Then be able to enjoy my family as I age. I don't want to drop dead at 80 in NYS working in the school bus garage dispatching school buses. There's more to life that than.
Please turn off the lights when ya all get smart too ok?
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