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Old 05-17-2017, 10:23 AM
Q44
 
Location: Hudson Valley, NY
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I'm a huge fan of living and working in NY. All 3 of my kids have or are doing SUNY schools (and I do not qualify for free tuition). We're planning on staying right here in retirement. That said, I'm not cross-eyed blind to the problems of the state. This program to me seems like just another flavor of the ridiculous Start Up NY plan. Offer incentives to entice people to live and work and start companies in certain towns. We saw how well Start UP NY has done . . . Instead of these gimmicky plans NY needs to once and for all address the issue of a bloated bureaucracy that has created the highest tax burden in the country. It's that simple. Too many politicians, taxes too high. You want jobs? You want students to stay here? You want retirees to stay here? Lower the costs of living and doing business here across the board. And for what it's worth I do not expect that will ever change, but I'm still not leaving.
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Old 05-17-2017, 12:33 PM
 
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I'm a huge fan of living and working in NY. All 3 of my kids have or are doing SUNY schools (and I do not qualify for free tuition). We're planning on staying right here in retirement. That said, I'm not cross-eyed blind to the problems of the state. This program to me seems like just another flavor of the ridiculous Start Up NY plan. Offer incentives to entice people to live and work and start companies in certain towns. We saw how well Start UP NY has done . . . Instead of these gimmicky plans NY needs to once and for all address the issue of a bloated bureaucracy that has created the highest tax burden in the country. It's that simple. Too many politicians, taxes too high. You want jobs? You want students to stay here? You want retirees to stay here? Lower the costs of living and doing business here across the board. And for what it's worth I do not expect that will ever change, but I'm still not leaving.
A lot of the bureaucracy is due to the current structure in terms municipalities, school districts, services, etc. Once that gets addressed, nothing is going to change, no matter how good or corrupt people think politicians are.

Given the copy cat society we live in, you would think people would seriously consider the difference in terms of governmental structure between states in order to make necessary adjustments.

With this said and as mentioned before, some of these places will do better than others and likely will appeal to those that want to be a part of a revitalization effort or want a smaller community.
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Old 05-18-2017, 10:46 AM
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Location: Where my bills arrive
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Amazing how there is no people in any of the pictures unlike these locations:

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Ca...!4d-77.5060232

https://www.google.com/maps/place/W+...!4d-77.5205089

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Old 05-18-2017, 01:30 PM
 
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Amazing how there is no people in any of the pictures unlike these locationsnn:

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Ca...!4d-77.5060232

https://www.google.com/maps/place/W+...!4d-77.5205089
It is a matter of timing and sometimes the street views can change once you move around.

Those street views were posted to give an idea of what they look like. I don't know if the VA street views would be representative of where the same base of folks would live. VA equivalents would be Harrisonburg, Winchester, Radford, Lexington, Martinsville, etc. being targeted for such a program.

Also, given that Plattsburgh, Oswego, Geneva and Oneonta all have at least one 4 year college, I'm sure the scene can look totally different.
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Old 05-18-2017, 02:03 PM
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If they were targeted my statement would still stand on this program, my objection is to the program not the state/cities they want to try it in.
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Old 05-18-2017, 02:10 PM
 
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If they were targeted my statement would still stand on this program, my objection is to the program not the state/cities they want to try it in.
Ok and that is fine, as well as fair. As I mentioned, I actually think it will have mixed results based upon a range of information. So, just like any program, it will have its detractors, pro types and those somewhere in the middle.
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Old 05-18-2017, 02:41 PM
 
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Just for the sake of those that may be interested or are curious, here is some more information that would be relevant to the program in terms of institutions and Downtown/other information.


Plattsburgh: SUNY Plattsburgh
https://www.clinton.edu/
Downtown Revitalization Initiative | Plattsburgh, NY
https://www.facebook.com/plattsburghdowntown/
Plattsburgh, NY | Official Website
GoAdirondack.com-Plattsburgh NY


Glens Falls: https://www.sunyacc.edu/ (actually in Queensbury just outside of the city)
Downtown Glens Falls Business Improvement District | Just another WordPress weblog
Glens Falls is full of things to do, delicious restaurants, and numerous places to shop for everyone in your family or friends.
https://www.facebook.com/downtownglensfalls/
Glens Falls Collaborative | Arts, Entertainment, Dining, Shopping, Services
Glens Falls, NY - Official Website


Geneva: HWS Homepage
Downtown Geneva, New York 14456 - The Difference is Downtown!
Geneva Night Out - a celebration of art and culture in downtown Geneva, NY
Geneva Area Chamber of Commerce | and Business Improvement District
Welcome to South Main Street, Geneva

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tGswej8vbw
City of Geneva - Uniquely Urban


Oswego: https://www.oswego.edu/
Downtown Living | Oswego New York
Downtown Revitalization Initiative | Oswego New York
Shop the Oswego downtown, Canal Commons, and East Side.
City of Oswego, New York | Oswego New York


Oneonta: SUNY Oneonta
https://www.hartwick.edu/
Dining, Shopping, Services - Destination Downtown Oneonta, NY
Visit Oneonta NY :: Authentically Oneonta-Downtown Revitalization Initiative
https://www.destinationoneonta.com/
Everything Oneonta, NY | Oneonta Calendar, Menus, & More
http://oneonta.ny.us/


Jamestown: https://www.sunyjcc.edu/
Jamestown Renaissance Corporation - Downtown, waterfront, and neighborhood revitalization strategies in Jamestown, NY
Jamestown NY | Hotels, Restaurants, Things to Do
Home - City of Jamestown, New York
Chautauqua Lake, Lake Erie & Western New York Vacation Information


Middletown: SUNY Orange
Middletown BID - Home
https://www.facebook.com/DowntownMiddletownBID/
City of Middletown - Home
48 Hours in Middletown – Visit Orange County, NY


Elmira: https://www.elmira.edu/
Elmira DownTown Development, Inc. ...Elmira NY in the Southern Tier Finger Lakes Region of New York State
https://www.facebook.com/Elmira-Down...c-87812274123/
https://www.ny.gov/downtown-revitali...rn-tier-elmira
Welcome to the City of Elmira
Mark Twain Country
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Old 07-10-2017, 06:39 PM
 
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Project announcements from Elmira and Oswego: https://www.cnybj.com/cuomo-announce...ion-dri-prize/

https://www.cnybj.com/oswego-to-use-...ozen-projects/
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