Syracuse vs Rochester for young professional (Buffalo, Hanover: 2015, violent crime, hotels)
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Eastwood would fit in this regard, as James Street has some businesses in that neighborhood. It is in the NE corner of the city and has about 11% of the city’s population. Eastwood Neighborhood Association
Hawley-Green has businesses scattered through parts of the neighborhood.
Marshall Street gets its share of medical facility/hospital employees as well, as there are 4 hospitals and about a few other facilities nearby. There are apartments north of Marshall Street towards East Genesee Street, where more apartments(mainly geared towards students and some professionals are located. Welcome to University Hill!
If you don’t mind villages in the suburbs, Fairport, Pittsford and Brockport in the Rochester area and Liverpool, Manlius, Fayetteville, Baldwinsville and North Syracuse in the Syracuse are some that may work.
If you don’t mind villages in the suburbs, Fairport, Pittsford and Brockport in the Rochester area and Liverpool, Manlius, Fayetteville, Baldwinsville and North Syracuse in the Syracuse are some that may work.
Actually, the Rochester area has loads of canal side villages-Fairport, Pittsford, Rochester, Brockport, Spencerport, Adam's Basin, Holley, Albion, Bushnell's Basin, Palmyra, Macedon, Seneca Falls and Waterloo, and they all are walkable and have shops and restaurants. And that's just on the canal.
Actually, the Rochester area has loads of canal side villages-Fairport, Pittsford, Rochester, Brockport, Spencerport, Adam's Basin, Holley, Albion, Bushnell's Basin, Palmyra, Macedon, Seneca Falls and Waterloo, and they all are walkable and have shops and restaurants. And that's just on the canal.
Yes, but wiuld you suggest all of those places to a young professional though? Seneca Falls and Waterloo are in the Rochester CSA, but are essentially halfway in between the two cities.
For the Syracuse area, I could suggest lakeside villages such as Skaneateles and Cazenovia, but I’m not sure if they would have enough or would completely appeal to a young professional. Of the 2, Skaneateles would likely be a better fit due to having options of going to Syracuse or Auburn within a relatively short drive to both. Of course Syracuse is going to have more, but Auburn has some Arts based events, a walkable Downtown with some bars/restaurants/even apartments, even minor league baseball, for those that are nostalgic a drive in theater and Emerson Park is a nice lakeside park on Owasco Lake.
Not too far from there is the Court Street business district in Lyncourt(cdp) in the town of Salina, which is an area know for its pretty large Italian population/percentage: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0835...2!8i6656?hl=en That area is seeing building being currently refurbished and there are apartments going in above the businesses.
St. Patrick's Loft Apartments(formerly St. Patrick's School): https://www.google.com/maps/place/Ti....1855721?hl=en It is literally a couple of blocks from the street view above and from other places on West Genesee Street and bars/pubs.
Not too far from that area is this business district in Solvay(a village also known for its Italian and lately Ukrainian population): https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0596...2!8i6656?hl=en (Eva European Sweets and Singers are popular spots in that area)
East Genesee Street area at the bottom of the hill/Midtown, with Downtown in the background: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0469...2!8i6656?hl=en
(Dolce Vita, Phoebe's and Strong Hearts(Vegetarian) are a few popular spots, with Syracuse Stage(pro theater) and the Community Folk Art Center(African diaspora based) in the area)
Hope this helps, while giving more of a visual of these city neighborhoods in both cities, that are fine to very nice and could work for those looking for something similar. Hopefully others can add to this or I'll try to add more that may come along, if I think of it.
People think I’m playing around on here. This is not a joke as far as I’m concerned. I have a sibling that lives in the Rochester area as well.
With this said, Rochester has plenty of nice areas of the city. People need to realize until you address the bigger picture, you need to realize such areas are in just about every American city. I never understood why I needed to be that drastic in order for people to get this basic reality. Even cities held in high esteem nationally like Raleigh, Seattle and Portland OR have some area(s) that are similar to some degree.
My point all along in here is that you have to consider the good and the bad in every city, but you don’t have to harp on negative aspects, because you can find that via the local news/media. That is easy, but finding the positive aspects of said cities aren’t going to be as easy. Hence, why I post the way I do.
Now, given that Syracuse is about to upset the #2 team in college football, if you like major college sports, Syracuse has that in its favor.
Actually, I appreciate your honesty here. Since you are the most prolific poster here, and I have gotten quite a bit of data from your posts in the past few years, it helps to know the motivation behind why people post here. Btw, I wasn't joking around at all or thinking anyone was playing.
Actually, I appreciate your honesty here. Since you are the most prolific poster here, and I have gotten quite a bit of data from your posts in the past few years, it helps to know the motivation behind why people post here. Btw, I wasn't joking around at all or thinking anyone was playing.
I’m probably one of the posters where it is strictly about the information making a point. I think most can tell who is actually posting for legitimate reasons and who isn’t on here. Trust me, I try to be very “measured” when posting on here. I say this sincerely and not with animosity. If anything, I may give out more information than should on here.
Just to bring it back to the OP, something else to possibly consider in terms of Syracuse is that there are companies within city limits concentrated in Downtown, on University Hill and some in Franklin Square. Just as an example, here are some companies in Franklin Square: https://www.rrms.com
I’m probably one of the posters where it is strictly about the information making a point. I think most can tell who is actually posting for legitimate reasons and who isn’t on here. Trust me, I try to be very “measured” when posting on here. I say this sincerely and not with animosity. If anything, I may give out more information than should on here.
Just to bring it back to the OP, something else to possibly consider in terms of Syracuse is that there are companies within city limits concentrated in Downtown, on University Hill and some in Franklin Square. Just as an example, here are some companies in Franklin Square: https://www.rrms.com
I didn't realize this and how widespread an area it is. So, I stand corrected. Perhaps I should have felt as unsafe in Roc as I did in Syracuse.
I may reconsider my move to Roc. I say that with 100% seriousness. I also just found a disturbing Youtube video based on this "cresent of poverty". Unsettling to say the least.
I will say this about crime in Rochester. It really is isolated and unless you live in the crescent or on its edge, the poverty or the violent crime will virtually never affect the average Rochesterian. Those that live in the East End or the Neighborhood of the Arts or the Monroe Village, The Winton Village, etc, live in a perfectly safe environment as compared to any major city. Where I currently live in the suburbs, my neighbors leave their garages open all day.
I've lived in the city (Monroe Vilage) and in the suburbs for many years and the only crime that has ever occurred against me is by a so-called friend that I trusted and stole money out of my wallet. That is it.
Now like I said, if you do happen to live in the Crescent, it's a whole different world. But the truth is that it doesn't affect 95% of the Rochester population.
Let me also add this. To fight crime both the City of Rochester and Monroe County have invested millions of dollars. The county has one of the most sophisticated crime labs in the country, and the Rochester Police Dept. has a command center with technology that is absolutely astonishing. And these tools have made a huge difference. Last year was the lowest crime rate in 30 years in the city. Here in 2017, major cities such as Baltimore, St. Louis, Detroit, etc are having record years for murders. In 2017 murders are up nationwide, but in Rochester they are down quite literally 50% this year from last year. About 4 years ago Rochester's murder rate was about 25 per 100,000. This year it's at about 10 per 100,000. That's a huge drop.
Why the big drop? Because of the technologies the RPD now has. The RPD's clearance rate of solving homicides is at record rates. Their shot spotter system can pinpoint a gun shot to within a few feet in just a few minutes. The police are being automatically dispatched to the scenes of crime minutes after they happen and in many cases are catching the criminals walking away from the crimes. Every time you take a murderer off the street, you decrease the number of individuals who are motivated to commit these types of crimes.
I personally am very proud of how Rochester is fighting crime and greatly trust the capabilities of our police force and detectives.
Check this out to see the capabilities of the RPD command center:
Yes, but wiuld you suggest all of those places to a young professional though? Seneca Falls and Waterloo are in the Rochester CSA, but are essentially halfway in between the two cities.
For the Syracuse area, I could suggest lakeside villages such as Skaneateles and Cazenovia, but I’m not sure if they would have enough or would completely appeal to a young professional. Of the 2, Skaneateles would likely be a better fit due to having options of going to Syracuse or Auburn within a relatively short drive to both. Of course Syracuse is going to have more, but Auburn has some Arts based events, a walkable Downtown with some bars/restaurants/even apartments, even minor league baseball, for those that are nostalgic a drive in theater and Emerson Park is a nice lakeside park on Owasco Lake.
Fairport is a fantastic place for a young professional. You have the very walkable Fairport village with direct access to the canal for biking and running. And it's a 10 minute drive to downtown Rochester and to Eastview mall for shopping.
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