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Old 10-14-2017, 11:42 AM
 
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Eastwood would fit in this regard, as James Street has some businesses in that neighborhood. It is in the NE corner of the city and has about 11% of the city’s population. Eastwood Neighborhood Association

6 Eastwood

https://goo.gl/maps/dm1rMdSv7sH2

Court-Woodlawn would/could also work: Court-Woodlawn Task Force: Click Walkable Court Woodlawn - Butternut Circle

7 Northside (The business district is the area with a lot of red on Grant Boulevard and the neighborhood covers the area north of it)

https://goo.gl/maps/ogTyFviqyo42

There are some apartments in the Sedgwick neighborhood in between both neighborhoods: Park Setting Apartments for Rent in Syracuse, NY | Rugby Square Apartments

Dewitt Highland Townhouse Apartments in Syracuse

Hawley-Green has businesses scattered through parts of the neighborhood.

Marshall Street gets its share of medical facility/hospital employees as well, as there are 4 hospitals and about a few other facilities nearby. There are apartments north of Marshall Street towards East Genesee Street, where more apartments(mainly geared towards students and some professionals are located. Welcome to University Hill!

Welcome to University Hill!
The B.I.D. » Crouse-Marshall

Welcome to University Hill!
Apartments on the street or nearby: Home
Fayette Place – Downtown Syracuse Apartments
http://www.syracuse.com/business-new...ded.html(Being built)
There are some older buildings further east on East Genesee Street too.
You could take this to Downtown or to campus: Connective Corridor
Some businesses in Eastwood: http://walkeastwood.org/businesses/(some have been replaced and some are scattered in other parts of the neighborhood)
More businesses not listed: https://m.facebook.com/Chadwicks-Spo...2449447873883/
https://m.facebook.com/A-Taste-of-Ph...9938751414193/
Fifi's Ice Cream & Sweets - Sweet Shoppe | Syracuse, NY
On Burnet Avenue in the SW portion of the neighborhood: https://www.dominicksrestaurant.net
Shiftys COLD BEER - HOT WINGS - LIVE MUSIC
Home - N.Y. Gianni's Bronx Style Pizza - Bronx Style Pizza in Syracuse NY
https://m.facebook.com/pages/Pappys-...20270137984868
You’ll notice quite a few Italian American owned/based businesses in Eastwood and in the Butternut Circle/Grant Boulevard business districts as well.

University Hill(lower) around East Genesee Street has these places: http://university-hill.com/wp-conten...-Brochure4.pdf
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Old 10-14-2017, 05:05 PM
 
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If you don’t mind villages in the suburbs, Fairport, Pittsford and Brockport in the Rochester area and Liverpool, Manlius, Fayetteville, Baldwinsville and North Syracuse in the Syracuse are some that may work.
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Old 10-14-2017, 10:16 PM
 
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If you don’t mind villages in the suburbs, Fairport, Pittsford and Brockport in the Rochester area and Liverpool, Manlius, Fayetteville, Baldwinsville and North Syracuse in the Syracuse are some that may work.

Actually, the Rochester area has loads of canal side villages-Fairport, Pittsford, Rochester, Brockport, Spencerport, Adam's Basin, Holley, Albion, Bushnell's Basin, Palmyra, Macedon, Seneca Falls and Waterloo, and they all are walkable and have shops and restaurants. And that's just on the canal.
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Old 10-15-2017, 05:04 AM
 
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Actually, the Rochester area has loads of canal side villages-Fairport, Pittsford, Rochester, Brockport, Spencerport, Adam's Basin, Holley, Albion, Bushnell's Basin, Palmyra, Macedon, Seneca Falls and Waterloo, and they all are walkable and have shops and restaurants. And that's just on the canal.
Yes, but wiuld you suggest all of those places to a young professional though? Seneca Falls and Waterloo are in the Rochester CSA, but are essentially halfway in between the two cities.

For the Syracuse area, I could suggest lakeside villages such as Skaneateles and Cazenovia, but I’m not sure if they would have enough or would completely appeal to a young professional. Of the 2, Skaneateles would likely be a better fit due to having options of going to Syracuse or Auburn within a relatively short drive to both. Of course Syracuse is going to have more, but Auburn has some Arts based events, a walkable Downtown with some bars/restaurants/even apartments, even minor league baseball, for those that are nostalgic a drive in theater and Emerson Park is a nice lakeside park on Owasco Lake.
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Old 10-15-2017, 03:10 PM
 
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Here is an easier street view of James Street in the Eastwood neighborhood: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0683...2!8i6656?hl=en

Street view of the far SW portion of Eastwood on Burnet Ave, where the businesses I mentioned are located: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0550...2!8i6656?hl=en

An easier street view of the Butternut Circle/Grant Boulevard business district in/next to the Court-Woodlawn neighborhood: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0721...2!8i6656?hl=en

Not too far from there is the Court Street business district in Lyncourt(cdp) in the town of Salina, which is an area know for its pretty large Italian population/percentage: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0835...2!8i6656?hl=en That area is seeing building being currently refurbished and there are apartments going in above the businesses.

Rugby Square apartments: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0693...2!8i6656?hl=en

Dewitt Highland apartments: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0627...2!8i6656?hl=en

Tipperary Hill in front of Coleman's Pub and with the Ukrainian church in the background: https://www.google.com/maps/place/Ti....1855721?hl=en

St. Patrick's Loft Apartments(formerly St. Patrick's School): https://www.google.com/maps/place/Ti....1855721?hl=en It is literally a couple of blocks from the street view above and from other places on West Genesee Street and bars/pubs.

Blarney Stone also on/in Tipp Hill(repairs at the time): https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0484...2!8i6656?hl=en

Not too far from that area is this business district in Solvay(a village also known for its Italian and lately Ukrainian population): https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0596...2!8i6656?hl=en (Eva European Sweets and Singers are popular spots in that area)

Area of the Park Avenue neighborhood(Syracuse) just west of Downtown that I was referring to: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0508...2!8i6656?hl=en (as you may see this is at that corner: Home | Middle Ages Brewing Company

You also have these new apartments a block or two away: https://www.dietzlofts.com/
https://www.dietzlofts.com/discover/

538 Erie | Experience Modern Living Downtown Syracuse
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0495...7i13312!8i6656 (building in front with Downtown in the background)

Also, a few blocks away: Welcome and this plaza is a block north of the restaurant: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0536...2!8i6656?hl=en

Franklin Square showing the Freedom of Espresso cafe, with Boulangerie sandwich shop and One Franklin Square apartments nearby as well: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0567...7i13312!8i6656
Franklin Square area apartments, with Spaghetti Warehouse going the other way and Downtown not too much further away: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0601...2!8i6656?hl=en
Aloft hotel near Franklin Square and the Inner Harbor: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0600...2!8i6656?hl=en

Backside of the Walier Lofts on North Salina Street, but going the other way takes you the Franklin Square and the Inner Harbor or even to Destiny USA going down Catawba/Spencer: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0614...2!8i6656?hl=en
Front of the building, which is a few doors down from Biscotti Cafe: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0615...2!8i6656?hl=en

http://www.biscotticafe.com/

Hanover Square: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0505...2!8i6656?hl=en

Armory Square: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0479...2!8i6656?hl=en (Pastabilities is to the right)

Franklin Square, which is where many of the festivals and a Farmers Markets take place: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0507...2!8i6656?hl=en

Crouse/Marshall area on University Hill: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0416...2!8i6656?hl=en

East Genesee Street area at the bottom of the hill/Midtown, with Downtown in the background: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0469...2!8i6656?hl=en
(Dolce Vita, Phoebe's and Strong Hearts(Vegetarian) are a few popular spots, with Syracuse Stage(pro theater) and the Community Folk Art Center(African diaspora based) in the area)

Westcott: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0401...2!8i6656?hl=en
https://westcottsyr.com/org/wna/

Hawley-Green: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0543...2!8i6656?hl=en

https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0533...2!8i6656?hl=en (also in this area: Laci's Tapas Bar and a block away: https://www.facebook.com/pageRedOliveSyracuse )
Hawley-Green Neighbors



In terms of Rochester, Park Avenue: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.1481...7i13312!8i6656

Monroe Village portion of Monroe Ave: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.1468...7i13312!8i6656
Monroe Village - Celebrate City Living

South Avenue in South Wedge: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.1420...7i13312!8i6656

Where South Clinton and South Goodman, as well as Swillburg and Highland Park neighborhoods meet: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.1397...7i13312!8i6656

Monroe Ave in the Upper Monroe neighborhood: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.1404...7i13312!8i6656

Winton Road/East Main in the North Winton Village neighborhood: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.1587...7i13312!8i6656

Culver Road where the North Winton Village, Beechwood and Homestead Heights neighborhoods meet: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.1698...7i13312!8i6656

Lake Avenue in Charlotte: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.2516...7i13312!8i6656

Brooks/Genesee in the 19th Ward across the Genesee River from the University of Rochester: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.1311...7i13312!8i6656

College Town area of the Upper Mount Hope neighborhood: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.1230...7i13312!8i6656
College Town – Expect More

NOTA(Neighborhood of the arts) https://www.google.com/maps/@43.1559...7i13312!8i6656

East End: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.1559...7i13312!8i6656

St. Paul Quarter: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.1600...7i13312!8i6656
https://rocwiki.org/St._Paul_Quarter

More Downtown Rochester districts/neighborhoods: https://rocwiki.org/Downtown#head-3c...c005c9865eb57b

Also, the 12 Corners area of Brighton just outside of the SE Quadrant of the city: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.1271...7i13312!8i6656

Hope this helps, while giving more of a visual of these city neighborhoods in both cities, that are fine to very nice and could work for those looking for something similar. Hopefully others can add to this or I'll try to add more that may come along, if I think of it.

Oops, forgot villages..Syracuse area, Liverpool: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.1021...2!8i6656?hl=en

Baldwinsville: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.1587...2!8i6656?hl=en

Manlius: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0014...2!8i6656?hl=en

Fayetteville: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0296...2!8i6656?hl=en

https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0298...2!8i6656?hl=en

https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0294...2!8i6656?hl=en

North Syracuse: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.1346...2!8i6656?hl=en (Village Commons apartments in the foreground)

Skaneateles: https://www.google.com/maps/@42.9459...2!8i6656?hl=en
(is about 10 minutes from here in Auburn: https://www.google.com/maps/@42.9313...2!8i6656?hl=en )

Cazenovia: https://www.google.com/maps/@42.9298...2!8i6656?hl=en



Rochester area villages, Fairport: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.1005...7i13312!8i6656

Pittsford: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0909...7i13312!8i6656

Brockport: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.2155...7i13312!8i6656

Spencerport: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.1921...7i13312!8i6656

Webster: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.2122...7i13312!8i6656

Victor: https://www.google.com/maps/@42.9824...7i13312!8i6656 (it is only 15 minutes from here: https://goo.gl/maps/4mXhbNu82Z52 )

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Old 10-15-2017, 10:53 PM
 
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People think I’m playing around on here. This is not a joke as far as I’m concerned. I have a sibling that lives in the Rochester area as well.

With this said, Rochester has plenty of nice areas of the city. People need to realize until you address the bigger picture, you need to realize such areas are in just about every American city. I never understood why I needed to be that drastic in order for people to get this basic reality. Even cities held in high esteem nationally like Raleigh, Seattle and Portland OR have some area(s) that are similar to some degree.

My point all along in here is that you have to consider the good and the bad in every city, but you don’t have to harp on negative aspects, because you can find that via the local news/media. That is easy, but finding the positive aspects of said cities aren’t going to be as easy. Hence, why I post the way I do.

Now, given that Syracuse is about to upset the #2 team in college football, if you like major college sports, Syracuse has that in its favor.
Actually, I appreciate your honesty here. Since you are the most prolific poster here, and I have gotten quite a bit of data from your posts in the past few years, it helps to know the motivation behind why people post here. Btw, I wasn't joking around at all or thinking anyone was playing.
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Old 10-16-2017, 01:06 AM
 
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Actually, I appreciate your honesty here. Since you are the most prolific poster here, and I have gotten quite a bit of data from your posts in the past few years, it helps to know the motivation behind why people post here. Btw, I wasn't joking around at all or thinking anyone was playing.
I’m probably one of the posters where it is strictly about the information making a point. I think most can tell who is actually posting for legitimate reasons and who isn’t on here. Trust me, I try to be very “measured” when posting on here. I say this sincerely and not with animosity. If anything, I may give out more information than should on here.

Just to bring it back to the OP, something else to possibly consider in terms of Syracuse is that there are companies within city limits concentrated in Downtown, on University Hill and some in Franklin Square. Just as an example, here are some companies in Franklin Square: https://www.rrms.com

https://www.cfglife.com

https://www.iheartmedia.com
iHeartMedia Jobs - Jobs in Syracuse, NY

School Bus Transportation Provider | First Student, Inc.

There are at least a few others as well. Downtown has some similar companies and the University Hill website has some places of employment listed.

You also have some companies just outside of the city like these companies here: LEGRAND – global specialist in electrical and digital building infrastructures

https://www.bms.com

Southern Glazer's Wine & Spirits

Crouse-Hinds - Leading provider of electrical and instrumentation products for harsh, hazardous and explosionproof environments

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Old 10-16-2017, 08:47 AM
 
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I’m probably one of the posters where it is strictly about the information making a point. I think most can tell who is actually posting for legitimate reasons and who isn’t on here. Trust me, I try to be very “measured” when posting on here. I say this sincerely and not with animosity. If anything, I may give out more information than should on here.

Just to bring it back to the OP, something else to possibly consider in terms of Syracuse is that there are companies within city limits concentrated in Downtown, on University Hill and some in Franklin Square. Just as an example, here are some companies in Franklin Square: https://www.rrms.com

https://www.cfglife.com

https://www.iheartmedia.com
iHeartMedia Jobs - Jobs in Syracuse, NY

School Bus Transportation Provider | First Student, Inc.

There are at least a few others as well. Downtown has some similar companies and the University Hill website has some places of employment listed.

You also have some companies just outside of the city like these companies here: LEGRAND – global specialist in electrical and digital building infrastructures

https://www.bms.com

Southern Glazer's Wine & Spirits

Crouse-Hinds - Leading provider of electrical and instrumentation products for harsh, hazardous and explosionproof environments
This may be a place to look for some University Hill/area apartments for non students: https://www.universityarea.com

Perhaps this one as well: https://www.orangehousing.com/index....tings/index/16

Rochester area listings: http://www.rentrochester.com/mobile/results.php
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Old 10-17-2017, 12:22 AM
 
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I didn't realize this and how widespread an area it is. So, I stand corrected. Perhaps I should have felt as unsafe in Roc as I did in Syracuse.

I may reconsider my move to Roc. I say that with 100% seriousness. I also just found a disturbing Youtube video based on this "cresent of poverty". Unsettling to say the least.
I will say this about crime in Rochester. It really is isolated and unless you live in the crescent or on its edge, the poverty or the violent crime will virtually never affect the average Rochesterian. Those that live in the East End or the Neighborhood of the Arts or the Monroe Village, The Winton Village, etc, live in a perfectly safe environment as compared to any major city. Where I currently live in the suburbs, my neighbors leave their garages open all day.

I've lived in the city (Monroe Vilage) and in the suburbs for many years and the only crime that has ever occurred against me is by a so-called friend that I trusted and stole money out of my wallet. That is it.

Now like I said, if you do happen to live in the Crescent, it's a whole different world. But the truth is that it doesn't affect 95% of the Rochester population.

Let me also add this. To fight crime both the City of Rochester and Monroe County have invested millions of dollars. The county has one of the most sophisticated crime labs in the country, and the Rochester Police Dept. has a command center with technology that is absolutely astonishing. And these tools have made a huge difference. Last year was the lowest crime rate in 30 years in the city. Here in 2017, major cities such as Baltimore, St. Louis, Detroit, etc are having record years for murders. In 2017 murders are up nationwide, but in Rochester they are down quite literally 50% this year from last year. About 4 years ago Rochester's murder rate was about 25 per 100,000. This year it's at about 10 per 100,000. That's a huge drop.

Why the big drop? Because of the technologies the RPD now has. The RPD's clearance rate of solving homicides is at record rates. Their shot spotter system can pinpoint a gun shot to within a few feet in just a few minutes. The police are being automatically dispatched to the scenes of crime minutes after they happen and in many cases are catching the criminals walking away from the crimes. Every time you take a murderer off the street, you decrease the number of individuals who are motivated to commit these types of crimes.

I personally am very proud of how Rochester is fighting crime and greatly trust the capabilities of our police force and detectives.

Check this out to see the capabilities of the RPD command center:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d86IKGAI8JU

And the Monroe County Crime lab.
Inside look at the Monroe County Crime Lab - Story | WROC-TV
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Old 10-17-2017, 12:32 AM
 
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Yes, but wiuld you suggest all of those places to a young professional though? Seneca Falls and Waterloo are in the Rochester CSA, but are essentially halfway in between the two cities.

For the Syracuse area, I could suggest lakeside villages such as Skaneateles and Cazenovia, but I’m not sure if they would have enough or would completely appeal to a young professional. Of the 2, Skaneateles would likely be a better fit due to having options of going to Syracuse or Auburn within a relatively short drive to both. Of course Syracuse is going to have more, but Auburn has some Arts based events, a walkable Downtown with some bars/restaurants/even apartments, even minor league baseball, for those that are nostalgic a drive in theater and Emerson Park is a nice lakeside park on Owasco Lake.
Fairport is a fantastic place for a young professional. You have the very walkable Fairport village with direct access to the canal for biking and running. And it's a 10 minute drive to downtown Rochester and to Eastview mall for shopping.
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