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Old 01-04-2018, 06:08 AM
 
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Last one out don't forget to turn off the lights, and put out the cat.


Study: New Yorkers continue to flee state in large numbers | syracuse.com
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Old 01-04-2018, 07:40 AM
 
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"Almost half left for jobs."

Until NYS transforms itself into a place with business-friendly laws, this trend will continue.
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Old 01-04-2018, 07:54 AM
 
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This article was already addressed in the General US forum. It is using only one method of moving and it looks like the movement is going west, if you go by the study. http://www.city-data.com/forum/gener...le-moving.html


NY State does need to make some changes, but the thing is that the population isn't declining due to births and immigration, in which the latter is something the state always got.


Also, which has been mentioned many times on here, moving to nearby parts of the NYC area in PA, NJ or CT means moving out of the state. A quarter move for retirement isn't surprising at all.


Then, this line is very interesting: "Almost half say they leave for jobs, but more -- 59 percent of inbound customers -- say they move to New York for jobs".
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Old 01-04-2018, 08:08 AM
 
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High COL and stress. Some reach a tipping point after years and decide to make a change. Happens in other high COL cities too like Los Angeles.
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Old 01-04-2018, 09:30 AM
 
Location: Buffalo, NY
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So how does NY compare to other states?

Just comparing the top 15 populated states (CA, TX, FL, NY, IL, PA, OH, GA, NC, MI, NJ, VA, WA, AZ,and MA):

- 260,723 people moved to NY from other states, which is 8th highest by total, 14th by percentage of population (CA is 15th)
- 450,136 NYers moved to other states, 2nd by total (after CA), and 9th worst by percent lost (VA, AZ, IL, WA, MA, NJ, NC, and GA have a higher percent of population flee than NY)

NY State is exactly average among all 50 states (2.3 percent) as far as people leaving the state, but below average (1.3 percent) in people moving in from other states.

Above is based on 2016 US Census State to State Migration Flows
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Old 01-04-2018, 11:35 AM
 
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So how does NY compare to other states?

Just comparing the top 15 populated states (CA, TX, FL, NY, IL, PA, OH, GA, NC, MI, NJ, VA, WA, AZ,and MA):

- 260,723 people moved to NY from other states, which is 8th highest by total, 14th by percentage of population (CA is 15th)
- 450,136 NYers moved to other states, 2nd by total (after CA), and 9th worst by percent lost (VA, AZ, IL, WA, MA, NJ, NC, and GA have a higher percent of population flee than NY)

NY State is exactly average among all 50 states (2.3 percent) as far as people leaving the state, but below average (1.3 percent) in people moving in from other states.

Above is based on 2016 US Census State to State Migration Flows
Without seeing financial numbers it's hard to process this. For example, if higher earners move out of NY while economic immigrants move in, that's generally not good. One engineer leaving, replaced by two people working at 7-Eleven doesn't mean a net benefit, it's likely to be a net drain.
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Old 01-04-2018, 12:50 PM
 
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Without seeing financial numbers it's hard to process this. For example, if higher earners move out of NY while economic immigrants move in, that's generally not good. One engineer leaving, replaced by two people working at 7-Eleven doesn't mean a net benefit, it's likely to be a net drain.
There’s also the aspect of people moving to adjacent states, but may still work in NYC.
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Old 01-04-2018, 01:08 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn, New York
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A quarter move for retirement isn't surprising at all.
Imo, if the state stops taxing retirement income it can keep a lot of people/money inside NYS.
I could also see a lot of boomer retirees from NJ/CT moving into NYS to be close to family and still get the tax benefits.
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Old 01-04-2018, 02:57 PM
 
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There’s also the aspect of people moving to adjacent states, but may still work in NYC.
None of them are especially better choices though, unless you want a long commute to/from PA.
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Old 01-04-2018, 03:03 PM
 
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It would be interesting to see the county by county breakdown of in and out migration.
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